Tulecreeper
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I've been through Bozeman several times. I can't think of anything there worth staying more than overnight.
Actually, I have driven a rental car through some pretty narrow places. One was in the tiny town on Stromness on Orkney where the road was so narrow a lady with a baby in a stroller had to press herself and the stroller up against the building. I felt bad about that, but had no choice once I committed to that road!! Another time, I took a narrow road, but ended up deciding I was really on a sidewalk through a playground, which luckily was unoccupied. I do love the roads like the one in your photo, however, because they make me think of the people leading horses through them loaded with burdens hundreds of years ago!You wouldn't want to share the road with even foot traffic in our part of the UK.
Then you never stopped at the Museum of the Rockies there! It has a planetarium, a Yellowstone museum, living history outdoor exhibits, plus an excellent dinosaur museum.I've been through Bozeman several times. I can't think of anything there worth staying more than overnight.
If you're asking the OP, this was posted upthread:Have you been to America before?
We've done a couple of driving holidays before; Vegas, G Canyon, Zion, Phoenix, Tucson in two weeks, then Chicago, Tennesee etc for a couple of weeks
No, I only stayed the night each time as I was en-route to Saskatchewan on a hunting trip. I'm not much of the tourist type anyway. I spent a year in Hawaii on Navy business in 2001-2002 and I was miserable the whole time. I don't snorkel, SCUBA, or surf, and I'm not interested in laying on the beach crisping myself. I couldn't find anyone to go fishing with meThen you never stopped at the Museum of the Rockies there! It has a planetarium, a Yellowstone museum, living history outdoor exhibits, plus an excellent dinosaur museum.
Thanks hadn't noticed thatIf you're asking the OP, this was posted upthread:
Best place to rent RV in Denver? Thinking of standard size 25’, with a bed already set up, will need bed and kitchen kit. Total novices so will need guided tour. Seen a few negative reviews about Cruise America, but good reviews for a smaller company. Will need guided tour. Seen a few negative reviews about Cruise America, but good reviews for a smaller company.We’re a couple travelling to US for 2 weeks, road trip flying into Denver, up to Yellowstone, Grand Teton and back. We were going to stay hotels, motels and cabins but looking at cost thought renting an RV might be more run, cost effective and allow us to stay in Yellowstone. So a few questions and advice please:
1. Best place to rent RV in Denver? Thinking of standard size 25’, with a bed already set up, will need bed and kitchen kit. Total novices so will need guided tour. Seen a few negative reviews about Cruise America, but good reviews for a smaller company.
2. Any tips for first timers, where best to stay in Yellowstone to cover the sites? Don’t mind a bit of walking, if there are camp ground close to any sights? Or will we need to use RV every day to go up and pitch up again at night? Is driving a 25’ any problem or parking in any of the car parks at sites? Tips for booking sites, or getting a Pitch. Travelling September 2025, not sure exact date yet.
3. Water and dump stations? For a couple with this size RV how often will we need to fill/ empty and is it easy to find stations?
4. Are there gas stations in Yellowstone? And supermarkets?
Any other tips gratefully received.
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Wow, Jackie, thank you so much for all the info, and taking the time. Lots of really useful tips, so will definitely copy these and use in our plans. Everyone has been so helpful on here, glad I posted.Best place to rent RV in Denver? Thinking of standard size 25’, with a bed already set up, will need bed and kitchen kit. Total novices so will need guided tour. Seen a few negative reviews about Cruise America, but good reviews for a smaller company. Will need guided tour. Seen a few negative reviews about Cruise America, but good reviews for a smaller company.
A fellow Brit always rents with Cruise America and he visits every year. He is on his own so usually has a 19 or 21 foot RV.
There are several companies out there renting RVs .
Having a bed set up is definitely better.
2. Any tips for first timers, where best to stay in Yellowstone to cover the sites?
You could plan to stay in different campgrounds to cover different areas of the park. To make it easier and then do a few pount to point days.
6. Don’t mind a bit of walking, if there are camp ground close to any sights? Or will we need to use RV every day to go up and pitch up again at night?
The park is pretty big and about the size of Wales. There will be some trails from the campgrounds but you won’t see the main sights from there.
If hiking ensure you have bear spray.
Is driving a 25’ any problem or parking in any of the car parks at sites?
Many, many people do it every year. Just ensure you keep your eyes on the road. I’ve seen a rental RV in a ditch due to someone obviously sightseeing and not paying attention.
Most car parks will have parking for RVs if busy though you may need to return if there is no suitable parking, or park carefully on the roadside and off the tarmac where allowed, and walk back. I’m thinking about the geyser areas where this often happens.
Tips for booking sites, or getting a Pitch. Travelling September 2025, not sure exact date yet.
If you want to camp in the park then you are best to reserve and the spots usually open 6 months in advance and are taken quickly. You will need to know the size of RV as some campsites can’t accommodate large vehicles.
3. Water and dump stations?
There are either campgrounds with hookups or dump and water in them or one close by.
For a couple with this size RV how often will we need to fill/ empty and is it easy to find stations?
Depends on the size of tanks. If you have decent sized tanks and are good with water usage you may last a week or longer.
4. Are there gas stations in Yellowstone? And supermarkets?
There are at least 4 gas stations and a few groceries but you’d be best to stock up before you go, or at one of the towns. The ones in the parks tend to be more expensive.
Any other tips gratefully received.
Note the pricing Information below is from 2018
YELLOWSTONE
West Entrance
We stayed in commercial campground at West Yellowstone the Grizzly RV Park. Think it was around $45 a night or maybe a bit more but I believe the prices have hiked up. It was nice and you can walk into town. There is a cinema there and a couple of nice restaurants.
Buffalo Bar had good beer and average food. Wild West Pizzeria was good, bit noisier but lively and great pizza. Madison Crossing posher restaurant, busy, but a bit pricier however lovely food and cocktails!
Also there is the Buffalo Crossing RV Park and if you follow this link you will see there are a few other options, particularly if you can boondock (dry camp).
We have camped further out at Hebgen Lake too.
West Yellowstone probably the best area to access the following:
Norris Basin – the car parks were full almost every time we passed here so you would need to be up early to get a spot. Like all of the geyser areas it is a boardwalk. I think you would spend at least 2-4 hours here. You could also come here if staying in Gardiner, it would be a bit further from there though I think.
From Norris you could then go along to Canyon and then along the Hayden Valley. That is where we saw the wolves early in the morning. We were up and away at around 5:30 to get them at dawn which is the best time to see them although this year we saw them later in the day (around 5pm and later). They have moved their den to behind Mud Volcano so people saw them crossing the road there.
The Mud Volcano is a nice boardwalk and not overly long and takes about an hour, someone we meet had seen a bear there, also check out Sulphur Canyon across the road. This is very close to Fishing Bridge (so a good campground for that area) so pop down and stop at Le Hardy Rapids, you can watch for fish and be aware that sometimes there are bears around this area.
Also stop at the bridge at Fishing Bridge as it is pretty.
We spent a lot of time watching wolves around this area in 2018.
Lower Geyer Basin has 2 sections one on the right hand side which is first if going towards Old Faithful and then one on the left which is a loop. Both worth visiting. I would say 1-2 hours.
Midway Geyser basin is the home of Grand Prismatic Spring. Can’t remember exactly how long it took to do this area but reckon 1-2 hours easy flat walking. The very best view of Grand Prismatic Spring is from above so you need to go past the Midway Geyser parking area to the next one which is for the Fairy Falls trail. Note there is no toilet at this parking area. Go along this trail and turn left to go uphill. It is about ½ a mile up a slight hill to the viewpoint. Fairy Falls are supposed to be beautiful and further on is another geyser area – Imperial Geyser, which I was told was really nice.
Do the Grand Loop Road drive, lots to see. There are views of the waterfalls, some with steep stairs but others quite easy. Make sure you stop at Artist Point for photos.
Old Faithful site is the Upper Geyser Basin. There is the Old Faithful Hotel, which you have to go into just to see it. The new visitor centre is there too so you can see when geysers are predicted to go off that day and to get the map of the walk with the info on it.
Lots of geysers and I would say another 2-4 hours to go round that bit.
The best view of Old Faithful without the crowds is on the boardwalk next to Plume geyser and not too far. Morning Glory Pool is very colourful and near the end of the walk and worth seeing. There are a lot of geysers on this walk which is easy to do although a few miles in length. Alternatively you can go upstairs in the hotel and sit on the balcony with a drink and snack and watch the geyser from there.
Firehole Lake Drive is nice with several pools and geysers and the Great Fountain Geyser erupts daily but you may need to wait a few hours to see it, rough times posted beside it and in Visitor Centre. White Dome Geyser is another that is regular and goes off every 15 minutes or so and worth seeing. This road maybe closed as it was this year (2024).
South end is West Thumb where there are more geysers here, this is probably be 1-2 hours max, this is not a long walk at all and easy. This is on Yellowstone Lake. When we were there a storm came up and we had hailstones – in June! We also got snow there.
Even if just going on the boardwalks you should have bear spray, a youngster was attacked by a bear close to Old Faithful this year. Same in the Tetons.
To see the bears you just need to keep an eye out of the window, often you will see them at the side of the road or in the trees (May/June and September probably best). Where there are wide open fields also look as you can see them moving across those. Ask the locals (or folks with spotting scopes) for info as there will often be a spot you can find them in feeding for example.
Close to West Yellowstone there were several elk in some wet meadows and often traffic jams because of this. Lots of bald eagles were sitting in the trees along that road also. Be prepared to wait in traffic.
North Entrance
We stayed in a commercial park called Yellowstone RV Park in Gardiner, it is the sister park of the one at West Yellowstone, not as large but cheaper.
There are several boondocking spots and one just down the valley - Canyon Campground in amongst some large rocks is nice. Also Carbella for free camping.
Mammoth Campground is in the park so consider that as the cost may outweigh fuel charges for the longer drive. The road into Gardiner from the park is a bit twisty now and steep. Watch for elk here Astley hang around this area.
We bought stuff at the local supermarkets and ate in mostly so can’t advise on many restaurants apart from the one on the river the Iron Horse Grill maybe which wasn’t great and Yellowstone Grill where we had an OK Pizza. Ice cream in the Pharmacy is good though. May be different now.
Tower-Roosevelt is a nice drive, keep an eye out for birds and if you can stop off and look for the osprey nest on the left hand side of the road going. We also saw some bears here up on the right hand side in the woods. There is a big cafe there although we haven’t been in it. You can also get a good look at the volcanic rocks, really nice and a bit like Fingal’s cave. You get spectacular views of the Yellowstone River along here too.
There is a side drive from here called Blacktail Plateau which is nice and you sometime see deer and Elk, and also a stop just past there to go see a Petrified Tree. NOT WITH RV THOUGH.
There are several view points on the way along this road from Gardiner too.
Consider Slough Creek for camping if you are small enough. Wolves in that area too and it's a good location.
Drive on from there to the Lamar Valley. Used to be a big wolf pack there, but in 2017 there were only 3 but supposedly more in 2018 but things change. People saw them in 2018 at around 10am at the tree line between Soda Butte and the Bison Institute – park at the area where there are quite a lot of trees at the river bank. Last year there had been a bison kill and bears were feeding there but we didn’t see them. We saw a moose and calf there one year too near the parking lot at Trout Lake.
This road has a bridge at one end where you often get a bison jam.
You can head further out on this road and go up on the Beartooth Highway, if it is open you get beautiful views from the top and it is manageable in the RV if you are less than 40ft total. Cold at the top and it was a bit windy, but well worth it for the views. We saw some Pikas there and on the way to Red Lodge not too far down the road on the left there are several glacial lakes. It looks like there is boondocking over in the forests behind these lakes too.
There is a small shop on the way to the top called the Top of the World – this is usually where the road closes if snow. Toilets naff but you can grab a coffee and look at the shop. There are campgrounds up there too.
Instead of continuing on the Beartooth Highway you can turn right and go on the Chief Joseph Highway which has spectacular views, particularly at the top. At the bottom there is a parking area to get a view of a lovely gorge and the mountains. It takes you to Cody.
On the way up to these 2 roads there are a few campgrounds on either side of the road and they are boondocking and quite nice. I do have a note of them somewhere so will fish them out if you are interested as I took note of ones that we would fit into. These are mainly Forest campgrounds and reservable now.
There is also the John D Rockefeller Memorial Parkway which is supposed to be nice and it is in between the Tetons and Yellowstone. Not sure it’s a good location for driving to each though so check distances.
These are just some ideas and hopefully you will find lots of stuff to do.
I can provide info on the Tetons too.
We pay Jackie by the wordWow, Jackie, thank you so much for all the info, and taking the time.
For most people not used to RV living the water is mostly wasted. You must learn not to let a faucet run while brushing teeth or anything else. When you shower, there will be a valve to turn water on and off at the shower head that doesn't change the temperature setting so using that to turn off water while washing then on to rinse can cut the shower water use by half to 2/3 or even more with practice. It is best to dump tanks anytime that you put water into the potable water tank. At least here in the USA, we waste a lot of water. Be aware that the waste tank level indicators may not be accurate so dump often.For a couple with this size RV how often will we need to fill/ empty and is it easy to find stations?
Depends on the size of tanks. If you have decent sized tanks and are good with water usage you may last a week or longer.
When we were last in Yellowstone in September, by far the most bear activity was near Tower Falls but the rangers will usually tell you so be sure to ask them and the same with all of the other wildlife. With crowds smaller in September you will be able to see far more wildlife than in mid-summer.To see the bears you just need to keep an eye out of the window, often you will see them at the side of the road or in the trees (May/June and September probably best). Where there are wide open fields also look as you can see them moving across those.
This is an excellent point. It took me probably a year of fulltiming and boondocking to learn how to not waste water. Now i can take a full shower including shampooing my hair using about a gallon of water.For most people not used to RV living the water is mostly wasted.
Same for me. I can flush the toilet, wash dishes once a day, and take a shower and wash my hair and still only use about 15 gallons of water a day. You need to get into the habit of what is called a "Navy shower." Basically, you get in the shower, turn water on and use spray hose to wet yourself and hair down, as well as get washcloth wet. Then turn water off and shampoo hair and wash yourself. Then turn water spray hose back on and rinse. Should be able to do with this a couple of gallons of water!!This is an excellent point. It took me probably a year of fulltiming and boondocking to learn how to not waste water. Now i can take a full shower including shampooing my hair using about a gallon of water.
Using camping soap makes a huge difference. You dont need as much water to rinse. There are many brands and walmart sells it.Same for me. I can flush the toilet, wash dishes once a day, and take a shower and wash my hair and still only use about 15 gallons of water a day. You need to get into the habit of what is called a "Navy shower." Basically, you get in the shower, turn water on and use spray hose to wet yourself and hair down, as well as get washcloth wet. Then turn water off and shampoo hair and wash yourself. Then turn water spray hose back on and rinse. Should be able to do with this a couple of gallons of water!!
Another trick is to use a dishpan and wash and rinse dishes over it to catch all the water. Then I dump the water in the toilet because that seems to fill up more slowly than grey water. One BIG warning, however, is to use as little toilet paper as possible and make sure anyone traveling with you, particularly children, do the same thing.
Thanks, but you need to respond to the original poster. I respect your choices, but please realize that I was not the one asking questions about how to reduce water use, and this is not really a competition about who can use the least water. I gave my opinions to the original poster who was looking for tips. I have been on the road a lot of years and am very happy doing things the way I prefer, and I cannot imagine skipping my daily shower and hair washing, or even using a composting toilet. We all make our personal choices, and I much prefer to stay in campgrounds and have access to electric and water hookups.Using camping soap makes a huge difference. You dont need as much water to rinse. There are many brands and walmart sells it.
There is some controversy about how healthy it is for the environment but regardless of that it does work well on lots of things and rinses out with a lot less water.
2 of us can make 40 gal of water last almost 2 weeks when we boondock. Our composting toilet makes that possible and we cant shower every day but other than that there isnt much inconvenience
I appreciate your apologies, but the original poster was planning on renting a motorhome and was going to be in the U.S. for only two weeks, so he would never be able to install a composting toilet in a rental RV. It is also unlikely he would want to boondock as a newcomer to RVing, especially if he were planning to visit national parks, so I assumed you were directing your suggestions to me, not him.That was just to add to your ideas for how to save water not to compete. I didn't realize that by including your reply it meant I was directing that to you. I'll avoid that going forward. My apologies.
The main point of that post was to mention camping soap and i didnt start the topic about saving waterI appreciate your apologies, but the original poster was planning on renting a motorhome and was going to be in the U.S. for only two weeks, so he would never be able to install a composting toilet in a rental RV. It is also unlikely he would want to boondock as a newcomer to RVing, especially if he were planning to visit national parks, so I assumed you were directing your suggestions to me, not him.
If you want to address the entire forum, you might want to start a new discussion on ways to save water.