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onthemove

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I have a 2012 Toyota Tundra 4X4 DC towing package, 5.7 liter i-force V8, 6 speed transmission, 4:30 Gears, wheelbase 145.1?, LT275/70R18/E 10 ply tires, Weight distribution hitch, Firestone air bags, the TWR=10,800 lbs. I think the FGAWR=3,640 lbs. the RGAWR=2,320 lbs. for a total of 6,280 lbs. with two people and some extra things.
I also have a 2012 Keystone Cougar Travel Trailer that is 29? 6? long. The Trailer TNWR=6,172 lbs. the net Tongue Weight=630 lbs. the approximate unloaded weight= 6,172 lbs. without two 30gal. Propane tanks and LPS, two RV batteries and all holding tanks are empty.
Wife and I just got back from a weekend camping trip and stopped at a weigh scales and weighed the Trailer: The Truck FGAWR was 3,400 LBS. -  RGAWR was 3,750 lbs. ? GVWR was 7,250 lbs.
The Trailer TNWR was 6,600 lbs. about 25 gal. fresh water, 10 gal. black water, 10 gray water plus some food and extra things. The tongue weight was 1,150 lbs.
The Toyota pulled the trailer very good over to the coast and back, Bad gas millage 8.5 -9 MPG.
I love the Tundra and the Cougar, is this set up safe? How do you figure the weight?  I came up with 13,850 lbs. I see others that pull bigger trailers than my, with their Tundra?s. Is that tongue weight out of the ball park? That is 17%......
I need help with the math?..THANK YOU??.
 
That's not really bad gas mileage.  It's probably very average for towing almost 7,000 pounds.  Everything else looks within specs, but the tongue weight may be a bit on the heavy side.  You say it tows good, I'd say keep going.  Check the tongue weight again, and if it's still heavy, maybe look at shifting some of the weight back.
 
onthemove said:
I have a 2012 Toyota Tundra 4X4 DC towing package, 5.7 liter i-force V8, 6 speed transmission, 4:30 Gears, wheelbase 145.1?, LT275/70R18/E 10 ply tires, Weight distribution hitch, Firestone air bags, the TWR=10,800 lbs. I think the FGAWR=3,640 lbs. the RGAWR=2,320 lbs. for a total of 6,280 lbs. with two people and some extra things.
I also have a 2012 Keystone Cougar Travel Trailer that is 29? 6? long. The Trailer TNWR=6,172 lbs. the net Tongue Weight=630 lbs. the approximate unloaded weight= 6,172 lbs. without two 30gal. Propane tanks and LPS, two RV batteries and all holding tanks are empty.
Wife and I just got back from a weekend camping trip and stopped at a weigh scales and weighed the Trailer: The Truck FGAWR was 3,400 LBS. -  RGAWR was 3,750 lbs. ? GVWR was 7,250 lbs.
The Trailer TNWR was 6,600 lbs. about 25 gal. fresh water, 10 gal. black water, 10 gray water plus some food and extra things. The tongue weight was 1,150 lbs.
The Toyota pulled the trailer very good over to the coast and back, Bad gas millage 8.5 -9 MPG.
I love the Tundra and the Cougar, is this set up safe? How do you figure the weight?  I came up with 13,850 lbs. I see others that pull bigger trailers than my, with their Tundra?s. Is that tongue weight out of the ball park? That is 17%......
I need help with the math?..THANK YOU??.
Your Tundra will do just fine.
 
Just keep pulling that bitch and dont worry so much about the weight.  If your happy with how fast you can motor down the highway, up hills and grades, and have good braking,  your good.  Watch your temperatures in the pickup, especially when towing in the warmer months, and get after it!!!  Just my 2 cents
 
I have that same Tundra and love the towing capability. One thing you dont mention is the Tundra has a transmission cooler / temp gage for the hot months when pulling. I assume that you also have a trailer brake and probably a WD hitch so you are good to go & stop.  Enjoy !!
 
Tongue weight is a bit higher than typical - I would have expected about 800-900 lbs.  But the extra tongue weight translates to very good towing manners as long the truck can handle that much weight behind the bumper.  You didn't give the truck GVWR, nor its payload rating, so I can't guess if it was overloaded.

I've been heavily involved in trailer towing and tow ratings for 35 years but have no idea what TNWR may be.  Please explain.

Except for the tongue weight and the possibility of overloading the truck suspension, your rig seems to be towing well.
 
I tend to agree with Gary abut the tongue weight being a bit high. I would see about moving some gear and supplies around to offset the tongue weight if possible. That would shift the balance point a bit.
 
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