Verge Electric Motorcycle Solid State Battery Range

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A member discussed the Verge electric motorcycle as a possible early U.S. production vehicle using a solid-state battery, with a claimed large pack of up to 33.3 kWh and about 30 kWh usable. Using the member’s own range estimate method, they projected about 210 miles in mostly freeway use and up to about 420 miles at slower off-freeway speeds, while noting real-world results would vary by conditions.

The member later added that a riding friend has an expensive Verge TS Ultra on order...
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DonTom

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The first EV with the Solid State Battery in the USA probably could be the Verge Motorcycle.

As I have said before, always ignore range claims on EVs and use the simple DonTom method:

7 miles per useable KWH on motorcycles.

3.5 miles per KWH in cars.

Then on average motorcycle or average car with average normal driving, 50% of the time your range will be better and 50% of the time it will be worse.

The Verge can have up to a 33.3 KWH Solid State Battery. 30 KWH usable, IIRC. Perhaps the largest ever on a motorcycle. That means real world range of an average of (without the BS factor) of 210 miles expected as average, with mostly on the freeway. But double that if all off the freeway at an average of around 35 MPH then expect around 420 miles of real-world range.

Add or subtract to these for the conditions, as this is for average everything, and real-world with no BS factors.

The Verge is a weird motorcycle. See the rear wheel drive. No spokes or anything, The rear hub is the motor.
 

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I just found out that my electric riding buddy in Stockton has a Verge on order. With the larger battery and all. Probably will cost him 40K$ or so.

I have no interest in owning one unless they make a touring model as I am usually carrying a lot of stuff, such as my ride between by two houses.

I hear it handles rather poorly for a modern bike. But that makes no difference to me as I ride motorcycles like a little old lady anyway.

-Don- Douglas, AZ
 
From the thread located here.

Wow! That bike is neat!
A buddy of mine, Dave, in Stockton, CA has it on order. It is supposed to be the very first vehicle to have a new Solid State Battery! Verge Motorcycles and Donut Labs are somehow very closely connected.

He has the TS Ultra model ordered, will cost him more than 45K$. Dave has the most expensive model on order. Hard to say when it will be delivered.

"The Verge TS Pro electric motorcycle is the first production vehicle to be equipped with an all-solid-state battery, having entered production in early 2026 with batteries supplied by Donut Lab.

Among major automakers, Toyota is positioned to launch the first mass-market all-solid-state battery EV, with a target of 2027–2028. Other notable upcoming releases include:

  • Nissan: First solid-state EV on track for 2028.
  • Volkswagen Group: Demonstrated a solid-state powered Ducati V21L motorcycle in 2025, with commercial automotive cells targeted before the end of the decade.
  • Chery/Exeed: Plans to launch the Liefeng shooting brake with a solid-state battery in 2027.
While the IM L6 sedan claimed in 2024 to be the first production car with a solid-state battery, industry consensus and subsequent developments indicate that the Verge TS Pro holds the title of the first verified production vehicle with this technology to date."

-Don- Reno, NV
 
I said before that EV battery vaporware is endless.

But was I (and countless others) fooled by the Solid State Battery vaporware?

Again, a lie repeated enough becomes the truth--at least for quite a while.

This video is long and a little boring, but sure makes me wonder.

What do others here think, of those who have the patience to watch this 44 minute video?

 

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