Windrose Electric Semi Arrives in the U.S.

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A member shared news that China’s Windrose delivered its first electric semi truck in the U.S., prompting discussion about EV tractor weights, gross combined weight limits, battery weight versus diesel powertrain and fuel weight, and whether California’s reported $120,000 incentive would apply. Members noted the Windrose and Tesla semi figures discussed were around 82,000 lbs GCW, while concerns remained about payload reduction, local road weight limits, and bridge impacts.

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So 3,500 lbs more in the electric truck.

The weight of the batteries isn't that much of an issue
If you know any truckers (which I doubt), Ask them if you can add 3500lbs of useless cargo to their next load destined for across the country.

You might be surprised how much of an 'issue it is'.
 
You might be surprised how much of an 'issue it is'.
I am saying it is not an issue the way the Tesla Semis are currently being used. Several of them are seen every day on USA Parkway near the Tesla MCS charger.

More MCS (Megawatt Charging System) chargers are needed, which are coming. 64 MCS locations have already been picked out but not yet installed. MCS starts at one million watts and NOT designed for any cars.

So far, the longest trip with a Tesla semi was from CA to AR, around 2,000 miles.

They expect them to be able to drive across the USA in year 2027.

OTOH, just about everything they claim with EVs comes a lot later than expected, and Tesla could be the worse as people are still waiting for their 2020 Tesla Roadsters to be built.

Even "coming soon" on Plugshare really means "perhaps in a year or two."

-Don- Reno, NV
 
Just as does a large diesel engine and tranny.

Weight of a large truck diesel engine is ~6,000 lbs.
Add 1,000 lbs for the semi tranny.

total= 7,000 lbs.

The Tesla semi battery weights ~10,500 lbs.

So 3,500 lbs more in the electric truck.

The weight of the batteries isn't that much of an issue. A few hundred Tesla Semis on the roads and 13.5 million miles combined to date. At least one of them now has more than 440,000 trouble-free miles on it.

-Don- Auburn, CA
That is 1.75 tons if my calculation is correct. That is quite a bit. That is like adding a small car to the weight of the truck.
 
That is 1.75 tons if my calculation is correct. That is quite a bit. That is like adding a small car to the weight of the truck.
Which is like nothing. The Tesla Semi can carry more than 45,000 lbs, around 23 tons or so. And will move it up a hill very fast compared to any diesel.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
Which is like nothing. The Tesla Semi can carry more than 45,000 lbs, around 23 tons or so. And will move it up a hill very fast compared to any diesel.

-Don- Reno, NV
The issue is the weight that comes off of the payload. This is a direct loss for the trucker.

The cost to ship 1.75 tons across the country can vary significantly based on factors like distance, shipping method, and freight class. Typically, shipping costs for freight can range from $1,000 to $1,500 for this weight over long distances.

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Independant truckers for the most part are not sponsered, as it appears you are and would not consider a loss of $1000 to $1500 nothing.
 
The cost to ship 1.75 tons across the country can vary significantly based on factors like distance, shipping method, and freight class. Typically, shipping costs for freight can range from $1,000 to $1,500 for this weight over long distances.

The major costs are insurance, maintenance, Interest, and FUEL
With Fuel growing big time just now.
Electricity is .... less expensive.
 
Yet, the U.S.A. government will not allow Chinese autos to be sold in the country. Isn't that a conundrum?
Perhaps if there were not any made in USA Teslas, etc. We have enough choices as is.

Having better cars here that cost less certainly could be a problem, IMO.

-Don- Auburn, CA
 
Perhaps if there were not any made in USA Teslas, etc. We have enough choices as is.

Having better cars here that cost less certainly could be a problem, IMO.

-Don- Auburn, CA
I suspect that is one of the reasons Mr. Musk accompanied the president to China. Selling BYD EV's here would put all American EV mfgrs. out of business.
This is causing me to investigate buying one in Canada and importing to the U.S.A.
 
This is causing me to investigate buying one in Canada and importing to the U.S.A.
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  • Federal Compliance: Vehicles must meet strict U.S. safety and emissions standards; BYD has not certified its passenger lineup for these requirements.
  • The 25-Year Rule: The common exemption for importing older cars does not apply, as BYD’s modern EVs are not yet 25 years old.
  • Border Restrictions: While some reports indicate BYD units have crossed the border from Mexico, these are typically commercial fleet vehicles or temporary tourist imports that cannot be registered for long-term U.S. use. Attempting to register a non-compliant BYD domestically will result in denial by the DMV.
Conclusion: For now, there is no practical legal pathway for an average consumer to own and drive a BYD passenger car in the U.S. The only viable route would be waiting for BYD to officially enter the market with U.S.-compliant models, which analysts expect may occur post-2030 if trade policies shift. "
 
"
  • Federal Compliance: Vehicles must meet strict U.S. safety and emissions standards; BYD has not certified its passenger lineup for these requirements.
  • The 25-Year Rule: The common exemption for importing older cars does not apply, as BYD’s modern EVs are not yet 25 years old.
  • Border Restrictions: While some reports indicate BYD units have crossed the border from Mexico, these are typically commercial fleet vehicles or temporary tourist imports that cannot be registered for long-term U.S. use. Attempting to register a non-compliant BYD domestically will result in denial by the DMV.
Conclusion: For now, there is no practical legal pathway for an average consumer to own and drive a BYD passenger car in the U.S. The only viable route would be waiting for BYD to officially enter the market with U.S.-compliant models, which analysts expect may occur post-2030 if trade policies shift. "
I will not have to concern myself by 2030. My 2-day stay in the hospital ER last week feels like it aged me by 10 years.
Oddly enough, I called 911 to report my DW was having a stroke, when they arrived, one EMT sat me down and put a BP cuff on my arm, said BP was very high. Ya, right; wonder why?
By the time they loaded DW into an ambulance she could use her left arm and speak again. Now she's left with a poor memory and instant temper.
Anyway, looks like my only EV ride may be a ZTR mower.
 

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