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Re: The Day the Music Died: Where did all of the music go! ??
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2014, 11:18:58 PM »
LOL, I'll take that as a compliment, I guess.

I know hundreds of better musicians than I.  One of them is fairly close to you In Wisconsin.  (I assume the MN is Minnesota.....right next door, right?)

His name is John Smith.  Really!  Www.johnsmithmusic.com.  My favorite johnsmith song is 'Find Hope', followed by 'From His Window'.  Both are on his first CD.

I've met John several times and he's listened to my little songs and tells me I have an unusually cruel muse.  (I think it was the one about SIDS that got him)

I use his songs for teaching all the time.


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« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2014, 11:25:17 PM »
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Ever been to one of those high end restaurants that have an accomplished resident piano player??

Yes, and I've been known to spend the entire visit looking over the pianist's shoulder, wishing I could play like that. One time I did this, I missed the meal, and my wife and guest had left the restaurant before I was done watching the pianist.

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Do you not find people like that, at least a little bit annoying.

Not in the least. In fact, the guitar/uke player in question is one of the most modest people I've come across.


 
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« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2014, 11:56:30 PM »
Yeah, a guy walked up to my desk one day and said he heard I played.  I asked him the same question and he said 'a little'.

Well, his 'little' was being one of Joe Passes primer students and having started playing professionally at the age of 12.  It took him all of 15 seconds to analyze the alternate tuning fingerstyle rip I had been working on for weeks and wrest it out of my hands & run with it.  This guy is nuts!  I've seen him play heavy metal touch system with jazz scales through a guitar synth behind a Celtic band.  (Yeah, wrap your music theory around that!) And nobody can figure out where all that sound is coming from.  It just sounds so wicked awesome! 

So much music, so little time.
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« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2014, 11:59:55 PM »
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So much music, so little time.

Isn't that a fact!
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« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2014, 05:05:34 AM »
An interesting comparison of Western and Indian music suggests a different reason for the latter sounding "strange" to westerners:

"Indian classical music has 7 basic notes (Sa Re Ga Ma Pa Dha Ni), with five interspersed half-notes, resulting in a 12-note scale. Unlike the 12-note scale in Western music, the base frequency of the scale is not fixed, and inter-tonal gaps may also vary."

I find this mind boggling  ???
If you really want mind boggling then check out tuning a sitar. The frets are moveable.

http://www.joerizzo.com/sitar/
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« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2014, 06:10:21 AM »
Aye, I've read about tuning a sitar before.

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The frets are moveable.

Yes, they'd have to be movable to achieve the explanation of their scale I posted
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« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2014, 06:57:15 AM »
Reading that article brings home the need to re-tune every time you change key. That would make it tough to change key on the fly.

"Let's play this in the key of x instead".

"OK, give me 20 minutes to re-tune; The audience will have to wait. Did you hand out the ear plugs?"
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« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2014, 08:26:35 AM »
Reading that article brings home the need to re-tune every time you change key. That would make it tough to change key on the fly.

"Let's play this in the key of x instead".

"OK, give me 20 minutes to re-tune; The audience will have to wait. Did you hand out the ear plugs?"
You obviously missed the Concert for Bangla Desh. Ravi and friends finished tuning up and got a large round of applause. Ravi said "Thank you. If you appreciate the tuning so much I hope you will enjoy the playing more."

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« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2014, 08:55:03 AM »
I heard of the concert, but didn't watch.

Looking at different video of Ravi playing the sitar, he appears to be playing "slack key" and bending the notes. I'm intrigued enough to want to try, but the sitar is one instrument I won't be buying. In any event, I can't assume the recommended playing position; Cross legged with the sound box against the sole of one foot.

My guitar lessons start in 2 weeks; That should keep me busy practicing, in between practicing for our next uke season.
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« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2014, 09:05:15 AM »
How about a duet for Sitar and Bagpipes?   :o
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« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2014, 09:15:16 AM »
Forum staffer Jim Dick used to be an Irish Piper. Maybe we could get him to come out of retirement.
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« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2014, 09:25:41 AM »
Want to totally blow your day to smithereens?  Take a look at some of the free videos these guys have.  :  http://www.guitarcontrol.com/
They'll also take your money if you insist.   ;)
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« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2014, 09:43:53 AM »
Here are a couple of photos of Jim playing his bagpipes:

1. Serenading our wives while we were boondocking at Anza Borego.

2.  Entertaining attendees during an RV Forum rally in Moab.

Now we just need someone to volunteer to play the sitar.
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« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2014, 09:52:23 AM »
How about a duet for Sitar and Bagpipes?   :o
With Yoko Ono doing the vocals ;D
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« Reply #44 on: July 30, 2014, 10:01:24 AM »
Tom, I thought you'd volunteer to sing.
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« Reply #45 on: July 30, 2014, 10:29:14 AM »
Yoko and Roseanne singing harmony!  (on the positive side perhaps the pipes would drown them out?)

And that my friends takes us full circle!  We're back at Roseanne Barr where this whole thing started.  Sort of.
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« Reply #46 on: July 30, 2014, 10:47:02 AM »
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We're back at Roseanne Barr

Move on, please  :(
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« Reply #47 on: July 30, 2014, 10:48:39 AM »
Tom, I thought you'd volunteer to sing.
My voice has been deteriorating with age. :-[
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« Reply #48 on: July 30, 2014, 10:58:14 AM »
Really, mine seems to be getting better.

Or maybe my ears are getting worse?

Whatever!  It works for me.
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« Reply #49 on: July 30, 2014, 11:24:16 AM »
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I can't assume the recommended playing position; Cross legged with the sound box against the sole of one foot.

Reminds me of the many times I ate in restaurants in Japan, especially the ones where you sit cross-legged on a tatami mat. I had issues with this:

1. I couldn't cross my legs.

2. Without back support, it was a back killer.

3. If my back wasn't hurting, I'd fall over.

They must get lots of westerners with this problem because, when I knew the secret code, they'd bring me a cushion something like a stadium seat with a back. Relief! Hurry up and eat folks, I'm ready for karaoake.
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« Reply #50 on: November 06, 2014, 10:01:52 PM »
8Muddypaws,

I ran across this thread and checked out Johnsmith's website. I found him on youtube and have been listening to him for awhile now and will be downloading some of his music now.  :)

Im a big folk music lover. My husband has an old high school friend (even after 60 years) who was a local folk singer here in the cities. Through him, I was introduced to the music of Joel Rafael and Bill Staines and try to see them whenever they come this way.

MNBlue skies, you really should check either of them out next time they come. Bill usually comes to town around this time of year. In fact he did a house concert here last weekend. He will be back again in February at Armatage School. That's a really good venue. Im hoping to go.

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« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2014, 05:28:36 AM »
Great thread.  I feel blessed to have been exposed to such a variety of music in my 72 years on this earth.  From the 40's, Benny Goodman, Glen Miller and many others. Remember Little Brown Jug, One Meat ball.  I learned to dance with my Mother to music by some of the best.  Thru the years many changes. The Beach Boys while a college student in Ca. The Bee Gees, Righteous Brothers,  of coarse Elvis, The stones, now Taylor Swift and some great country singers.  I like a variety of music, some more than others. On my bucket list is a Rolling Stones concert.  So, the music hasn't died. Much of todays music is still based on blues and jazz from days long gone.  I just have to listen to a new song a few times to understand the lyrics.

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« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2014, 05:47:26 AM »
I have been watching music video on Vimeo, a free MTV style streaming service. I am massively impressed with the quality of the music I hear on many of these videos. Katy Perry is amazing, especially Dark Horse. Shakira is also amazing with her La La La video. Tons of great stuff on there. Too bad for the haters, you don't know what you are missing.
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« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2014, 08:41:42 PM »
Katy Perry is just too cute!  You gotta find the one she did with the muppets!

I've seen Bill Stains at several house concerts.  Hard to keep track, there have been so many!
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« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2014, 08:59:06 PM »
What, pop artists don't count.   Performers like George Michael, Freddy Mercury, Donny Hathaway and Stevie Wonder didn't create music?  And groups like ABBA didn't write musicals?  Well maybe not the group.  But two of the singers, Benny Andersson and Bjorn Ulvaeus teamed with Tim Rice to write Chess.  These are not plagiarizing lip syncing Milli Vanilli performers.  They write, they play and they sing.  There's some pretty awesome music that's been produced in the years since Rodgers and Hammerstein.  But as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, music is in the ear of the beholder.  If you want an example of outstanding music, check out the musical CHESS.  And listen to the words of Bohemian Rhapsody.   May not appeal to your tastes, but it's an amazing piece of work.  And don't get me wrong.  I love the old stuff.  But music hasn't died. 
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« Reply #55 on: November 08, 2014, 03:46:15 AM »
Katy Perry is just too cute!  You gotta find the one she did with the muppets!
You mean this one?

http://youtu.be/YHROHJlU_Ng

Yep, she is too cute.
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« Reply #56 on: November 08, 2014, 06:20:19 AM »
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Too bad for the haters, you don't know what you are missing.

Actually, we do. Distorted instruments, scratchy, yelling voices, profane lyrics (or unintelligible), and attempts to rattle anything nearby with excessive bass. Sure, there's a little bit of good stuff in there, but not much that I can stand, in the pop field. Folk, classical, opera (mostly), much of jazz, show tunes (mostly), crooner stuff (Sinatra, Crosby, etc.), country (except some of the more recent stuff that emulates rock), bluegrass, easy listening, and a lot more, are great -- even a lot of (not all) early rock, especially rock & roll. But Little Richard is an example of stuff that's hard to take.

But almost anything that is THUD, THUD, THUD on the bass, at such a high level it rattles your bones, instruments that sound as if there's a malfunction, RAP and a lot of other "modern" stuff out there.

But it's interesting that a lot of the problem I have listening to that stuff is the specific performances, since the same material by more palatable performers is often (not always) good music.

So yes, I know exactly what I'm missing, and missing it is intentional.
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« Reply #57 on: November 08, 2014, 09:34:49 AM »
One mans crap is another's mans treasure.   :o
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« Reply #58 on: November 11, 2014, 08:40:48 PM »
Our son is studying at the Curtis Institute of Music. This is one of the premier music conservatories in the world with only 160 students. Our son aspires to play trumpet in an orchestra. So whereas orchestra music is his favorite, he listens to and appreciates all music. In turn, he has opened our minds to the different music types too. We still prefer the rock of the 60s and 70s, but now will listen to jazz and orchestral.  He loves opera too, but we find it difficult to listen to for any length of time. So yes, music enjoyment is in the ear of the listener. But regardless of whether we like the sound or not, we always appreciate the effort and talent it takes to make music. This is especially true of the two of us since neither of us plays any instruments. We even have a professional keyboard in our living room. Since our son moved out, no one here to play it. The only time it gets touched is when it gets dusted! 
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