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Windows 10
« on: November 21, 2015, 06:22:23 PM »
Has any one upgraded to windows 10 from windows 7 ?
 If so is there a big learning curve?

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2015, 06:24:52 PM »
not a big curve from 8 or 7. Programs quit running too often and have to be recovered. twitter, paint on my computer.   
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2015, 06:29:44 PM »
I hardly even notice the difference except it always runs slow after startup because it is busy downloading updates. They should have called it Windows Always Updating.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2015, 07:46:28 PM »
I've had W10 running on several computers since before it was released.  I only had one little driver problem that took about an hour or so to solve.

Tom: this might help - http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4189-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-10-a.html

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2015, 07:54:53 PM »
Tom: this might help - http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4189-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-10-a.html
Thanks Mud. It starts fast, it just runs like a dog after it starts.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2015, 06:59:27 AM »
No learning curve and you can stop all the widows updates.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2015, 07:53:33 AM »
...and you can stop all the widows updates.
but you shouldn't.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2015, 08:11:24 AM »
No learning curve and you can stop all the widows updates.


With the home version of Win 10 I haven't heard of a way to stop Microsoft updates.

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2015, 08:37:59 AM »

With the home version of Win 10 I haven't heard of a way to stop Microsoft updates.

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2015, 08:42:42 AM »
There is no way to turn them off. You can stop them from automatically being applied. Updates are worthless to me.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2015, 08:54:17 AM »
You can visit this site for instructions on stopping automatic updates by stopping the windows update service.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2015, 10:09:36 AM »
I don't see a lot of differences over Win7.

One issue I'm having is recently my start menu quit working.
Apparently it's a known issue that can happen after an update.
I've looked at some fixes,but have not yet been able to make them work.

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2015, 05:26:12 PM »
I do not see constant updates.. Just once a week.. Same as eXtra Painful, Win 8.1
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2015, 11:47:27 AM »
  Click on Settings;  Updates and Security; Windows Update; Advance Options;then select what you want. I did that on my Gateway with Win/10 Home. Now I check when to Check for Updates and when to restart the computer!
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2015, 01:05:46 PM »
I like it better than Win 8/8.1 because the interface is more like Win 7 and it does seem to run faster and with fewer "crashes" than any Win O/S before.  The only problem I have had is with driver updates and a weird sleep/shutdown problem.  I just wrestled a problem to the ground on my wife's laptop.  She uses a USB mouse and had trouble with inadvertently triggering something from the touchpad.  I set it to disable when a USB mouse was plugged in and that fixed it...I thought.  After a reboot, the problem came back.  The setting was not being remembered when rebooting.  I had to delete the driver and driver software so it would update fully.  Now it's fixed (I hope).


The sleep/shutdown problem occurred on my laptop.  It turned out to be a specific update.  I finally uncovered it after LOTS of Google searches.  I was able to remove it and hide the update so it would not reinstall.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2015, 07:41:52 PM »
I have a 29GIG per month plan.  I have heard that 10 is upgrade intensive.  We have 2 computers and wonder if there are enough GIGs to handle it.  We currently use most of the time for data trransfer.

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2015, 08:02:18 PM »
Someone more knowledgeable than me will have to tell you how to do it, but I know there is a way to download it to one machine and then upgrade to the other machine from the first one. That way you only have to download the upgrade once.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2015, 08:46:01 PM »
If you download Windows 10 using the Microsoft Media Creation Tool, you can save it as an ISO.  Then either burn it to a DVD or a bootable USB drive using something like Rufus.  You can then use that to upgrade your other computers. The download can be from 3-6GB depending on which version and whether you get the 32-bit, 64-bit, or the combined version.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2015, 08:57:23 PM »
I'm concerned about programs that will run on W7 but not on W10. Is there an easy solution to this?
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2015, 10:48:37 PM »
If a program ran in 7 there's a pretty good chance (like 100%) that it will run in 10.  If it requires a device or pseudo device driver that would be the most likely problem area.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2015, 12:31:20 AM »
I'm concerned about programs that will run on W7 but not on W10. Is there an easy solution to this?
If a program ran in 7 there's a pretty good chance (like 100%) that it will run in 10.  If it requires a device or pseudo device driver that would be the most likely problem area.
Also, Windows 10 has a "troubleshoot compatibility" function which will check an app to see if it needs some "adjustment" in how it is run.  It's not 100%, but it can salvage a lot of old apps.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2015, 06:06:36 AM »
Thanks both. It's the last one or two apps that concern me.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2015, 07:10:52 AM »
If I don't like Windows 10, Can I get Windows 7 back again easily? Or am I stuck with it.

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2015, 07:22:45 AM »
If I don't like Windows 10, Can I get Windows 7 back again easily? Or am I stuck with it.

Anytime in the first 30 days after you do the upgrade, you can roll back to the previous version of Windows.  Of course, a full image backup taken before the upgrade is your best insurance, and could be used anytime, even after the 30 days.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2015, 07:24:48 AM »
Thanks both. It's the last one or two apps that concern me.

I haven't heard of any programs that ran on Windows 7 that wouldn't run on Windows 10.  The exceptions would be hardware specific programs that don't have updated drivers, as mentioned above.  And Windows 10 does have a compatibility mode that can be applied per program if necessary.  I haven't found any need for it myself.  Do you have any specific programs in mind that might be a problem?
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2015, 07:38:39 AM »
Thanks Ned.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2015, 08:02:47 PM »
 Ned, I am now being threatened by MS that in two weeks we will loose any imported E mail. MS is requiring us to go to a windows form of e mail,(we presently use hotmail and gmail and its imported to outlook express) Our OS is W7 and I really like it, just am sick of Microslop pushing me around.  I'm thinking of switching to LINUX Mint15 Cinnamon for an OS, what are the downsides?>>>Dan
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2015, 08:30:37 PM »
Your Gmail won't be affected at all, but your hotmail account will be switched to the new MS Outlook email that's browser based.  I would strongly recommend you drop Outlook Express as it hasn't been supported for years.  Thunderbird is an excellent email client that will support Gmail and most other email servers.  I'm not sure about Outlook mail, but a search of the Thunderbird site should tell you if does.  I would be surprised if it didn't.

As for switching to Linux, the email changes really aren't sufficient reason, but Thunderbird is available for all distros.  The downsides are learning a new user interface and you won't be able to run any Windows only programs with installing a virtual Windows machine.  If you have no Linux experience the learning curve can be a bit steep.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2015, 09:12:07 PM »
I have had Outlook.com as my email acct since 2012 and have not had any issues with it at all.  It is much easier to use than GMail.  Filing emails to keep for future reference is simple.  I have another acct that dumps into Outlook as well.

I have refused to up grade to 10 so far.  I have another computer that was new from Staples a year ago that is W7 and it has so far received no notifications from MS about 10, I wonder why?
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2015, 03:35:33 PM »
 Thanks Ned, I really like win7 but am tired of Microslop pushing customer/owners around.>>>Dan
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2015, 04:03:23 PM »
I don't know how much help this will be but it might be worth a try.
"What's a metered connection?



A metered connection is an Internet connection that has a data limit associated with it. Cellular data connections are set as metered by default. Wi-Fi network connections can be set to metered, but aren't by default. Some apps and features in Windows will behave differently on a metered connection to help reduce your data usage.
  • To set a Wi-Fi network connection as metered:Select Start > Settings > Network & Internet.
  • Select Wi-Fi > Advanced options > Set as metered connection.
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ON EDIT: Here is some info from PC World on why this may help. HERE
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2015, 09:04:43 PM »
I am less than thrilled with 10. It took 4 days to download, it would only continue while the computer was in use. I finally got it to work but the process was a bit painful, I am not a computer expert. It is working now but I am still looking for 'stuff', I had to search to find disc cleanup and my settings. IMHO, it might be good for Microsoft employee job security but I really don't see any advantage for the end user.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2015, 11:15:47 PM »
Disk cleanup.  From a file explorer right click on the disk and select tools.  Same as with W7, 8, 8.1.  There's other ways but this is the simplest.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2015, 08:19:49 AM »
Disk cleanup.  From a file explorer right click on the disk and select tools.  Same as with W7, 8, 8.1.  There's other ways but this is the simplest.
I thought this was a neat trick but I can't find "tools" or "defrag" with a right click of the mouse on the drive [C:]
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2015, 08:45:51 AM »
oopps, reply deleted by me!! as no longer applicable.....
 
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2015, 09:29:55 AM »
Open My Computer, right click on Drive C:, properties, then the tools tab.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #36 on: December 21, 2015, 01:42:46 PM »
My computer was on when I walked away and when I returned Windows 10 was doing a major upgrade. Now I can't find my calendar, it was in Outlook 7. Any ideas??
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2015, 12:21:55 AM »
Check your settings/preferences in Outlook.   Calendar has not been deleted.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2015, 07:30:56 AM »
I believe there is also a Calendar app on the start page.. But I'm not sure it shares the Outlook Calendar files and just now this turkey won't go to start.. Ok Rebooted and returned.. It may have been on the START page but if so I deleted it.

It is however under ALL APPS.. Go to start page (If like me you boot to desktop press the WINDOW key on the left near the ALT and CTRL)

There are 3 lines at the top left, and bottom left.. the bottom one shouhld bring up a list of apps.. One entry is ALL APPS.

Scroll down to the Cs and it should be there.   You may right click and pin it to various places.  And it does log into your Microsoft account.
Windows 10 is all about burning bandwidth so it logs into your Microsoft accoutn.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2015, 07:02:57 PM »
I upgraded to Windows 10 several months ago, when it was first rolled out.  It has since had several upgrades, but last night it went through an upgrade which took over 2 hrs.  It was like the original upgrade to Windows 10 in duration.  Everything, including my startup, favorites bar, search engine preference, all my favorites, photos, passwords, etc. were saved.  But it got me thinking, although I backup my computer, I don't think any of my favorites are backed up anywhere.  Is it possible to back up or save favorites onto a thumb drive, and if so HOW?
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #40 on: December 23, 2015, 09:14:45 PM »
I upgraded to Windows 10 several months ago, when it was first rolled out.  It has since had several upgrades, but last night it went through an upgrade which took over 2 hrs.  It was like the original upgrade to Windows 10 in duration.  Everything, including my startup, favorites bar, search engine preference, all my favorites, photos, passwords, etc. were saved.  But it got me thinking, although I backup my computer, I don't think any of my favorites are backed up anywhere.  Is it possible to back up or save favorites onto a thumb drive, and if so HOW?

In Chrome you click on the bookmarks button and it will show a page of your bookmarks. Click on the organize button and you will see where you can export them as an HTML file. HTH.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #41 on: December 24, 2015, 08:10:35 AM »
In Firefox, Click on the Bookmarks menu item, then "Show all Bookmarks". In the screen that pops up see "Import and Backup" on the top line!! HTH
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #42 on: December 24, 2015, 08:41:26 PM »
In Firefox, Click on the Bookmarks menu item, then "Show all Bookmarks". In the screen that pops up see "Import and Backup" on the top line!! HTH
In Chrome you click on the bookmarks button and it will show a page of your bookmarks. Click on the organize button and you will see where you can export them as an HTML file. HTH.
Thanks.  I'll try it on either Chrome or Firefox.
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