Alaska with the Stocks 2009

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Tim Lassen said:
We were in Edmonton two years ago and enjoyed our stay waiting on a new MH windshield.  Our the roads still a mess or have they fixed them?..Where are you heading next?  We are currently in Winnipeg heading west towards Regina and will enter the US Thursday..tim
If I were stuck in Canada, this is the place I would want to be.  The roads are beautiful!  We can't understand how they do it with the same cold winter temps you see in Yukon.  if you come here, you will be amazed.  When they do construction, you see lots of people working hard and you can see the progress day by day.  We have found this to be true throughout the whole province of Alberta, not just in the Edmonton vicinity.

We are going to be here several more days as there is so much to do.  Then we are headed to Calgary, Banff, Lake Louise, possibly Revelstoke, then onto the US to see Glacier National Park,  over to Oregon's Willamette Valley to see fall leaves, Lake Tahoe, Sacramento (we've seen over half of the US state capitol buildings, but not our own!), and home.

We want to be in the U S by September 15 so we can postmark a quarterly tax payments and have them travel only by U. S. mails, but it is looking more and more likely that we will have to entrust it to Canadian mails, which absolutely gives me chills.

How far west are you coming?  Happy trails to you!

Linda
 
September 5 Day 107 Edmonton, AB

We love Alberta, especially Edmonton!  The weather is fascinating.  If you wait an hour, it will change.  They have interesting attractions and wonderful people.
Today we went to Fort Edmonton Park and saw 4 towns of different eras-Fort Selkirk, the Hudson's Bay Co. fur-trading post of 1845, Edmonton in 1895, 1905, and 1920.  Each of the sites had about 17 buildings, many with costumed interpreters playing the role of the real people who lives in, owned, or ran the building.  All buildings were open, and I think they usually all have interpreters, but the early start date of the universities robbed them of several of their employees. 
Entrance for 1 senior and 1 adult was $23.75 and included everything, including a wonderful train ride.  The train cars were from 1895, and 1905.  The engine was first used in 1915.  In the day it used wood, but today it runs on recycled motor oil!  Canadians do a better job of recycling than we do, although they say they produce more trash per person than any other country in the whole world.  The train cars were in perfect condition and the seating areas were beautiful varnished wood.  You can go into the high cupola of the caboose and look up over the train and see all the different settlements. 
Be sure to see their extensive 30' x 50' model train exhibit.  Talk with the guys for a few minutes and they may give you a behind-the-scenes tour, actually walking among the layout.  As a young married, Dean had an HO train set up on wooden tables in our living room.  After several years, we accumulated enough money to be able to afford living room furniture, and his layout got banished to the garage, with the thought that "someday" he would build a platform that he could raise and lower-never happened.  Telling this story got Dean the offer of a guided tour.
The park is at its peak in July and August, with all sorts of activities going on throughout, like wood-splitting, plays, etc.  In May, June, and September they are on a reduced schedule, in September only functioning on Sundays and Labor Day.  There were several thousand people there, but there is so much to do that it didn't feel crowded.
This is a "MUST SEE"-the best of the village re-creations we have seen.  Get there when it opens at 10:00 because it is a full day excursion.
Afterwards, we went to the West Edmonton Mall, the second largest mall in North America.  We only saw a part of it, but suffice to say, it has 3 exits from the freeway because it is so huge.  It was after 6:00 on a Sunday, and almost all of the shops were closed.
We decided to find a restaurant as it had been about 9 hours since we had eaten, so we wanted to eat NOW!  We found this obscure Chinese restaurant in a small strip mall, which was very nicely decorated and had wonderful food.  We had their 2 person special, which included egg rolls, chicken fried rice, tea, our choice of 3 main dishes, and fortune cookie for only $23 TOTAL!  We would definitely recommend The New dragon Palace restaurant at 17743 98A Ave..

Overnighted at Glowing Embers RV Park.
 

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Aye, the Edmonton mall is huge, much larger than the Eastridge (East San Jose) mall, and smaller than the Mall of America.
 
Linda,

I think it was the Glowing Embers RV Park where we stayed for the 2 weeks waiting for our windshield replacement.

FYI, I would NOT rely on Canadian mail into the US for something important.  Can you pay it online?  We have sent a couple of things, just via mail, and everything took at least 2-3 weeks.  One small package I sent via airmail and it still took over 3 weeks.  And, I'm not sure I would trust the US government to honor a Canadian postmark.

Isn't that Edmonton mall something?  I've been to both the one in Edmonton and the "mall of America".  You almost need a couple of days to see everything.  I'm not a shopper, so just walking around a bit to get a feel of just how massive it is was enough for me.

Alberta is a great province, their taxes are less..... ;)

We were headed to Glacier NP also, then I called them.  They informed us that the "top of the world" (I could have the name wrong) road is closed for the season.  That is one we really wanted to see and drive, so we decided to visit Glacier at a later date.  If you decide to go to Glacier be sure and also see Waterton NP on the Canadian side.  I understand it is also very nice.  I was really disappointed about not seeing Glacier, so we substituted Yellowstone in so that I would "cheer-up".....

Marsha~
 
Marsha/CA said:
Linda,

FYI, I would NOT rely on Canadian mail into the US for something important.  Can you pay it online? 

We were headed to Glacier NP also, then I called them.  They informed us that the "top of the world" (I could have the name wrong) road is closed for the season.  That is one we really wanted to see and drive, so we decided to visit Glacier at a later date. 
Marsha~

Marsha, you really motivated me to get my act together.  We've just been blowing in the wind, passing through things that didn't work and staying as long as we wanted when we found interesting places, letting circumstances set out timetable.  Our daughter let us know that she expected us home on October 1.  Is it possible that she misses us as much as we miss her?  We have tickets with Dawn and her husband for the Blue Angels on the 3rd, too.  I sketched out an itinerary, and your info on the road in Glacier NP (I think it's the Road to the Sun or something) will have a definite impact.  We'll also re-schedule it for another trip.  It relieves some of the time pressure and will give us extra days in Banff that we wanted.  I think you will make it to Nevada earlier than we will, but let me know when you're closing in on 50, and we'll see if we're nearby.  .

Thanks for the suggestion on e-mail.  As soon as I finish this, I will research that brilliant idea.  Dean and I both knew that existed, but we haven't needed to use it, and it does cost money, so we filed it deep in our memories.  Our brains have focused on traveling, and they don't change into business mode easily.  Taxes just aren't as much fun as figuring out what sights to see tomorrow.

May all your roads home be free of construction and smooth.

Linda
 
Tom said:
Aye, the Edmonton mall is huge, much larger than the Eastridge (East San Jose) mall, and smaller than the Mall of America.

The sights are now closing around 4:00, so our evenings are free.  We may get to explore the mall.  We can't believe that there isn't a big directory when you enter telling you where everything is.  You really need a map.  We didn't go to the VC in Edmonton.  The first time we were 2 minutes after close (4:32) and today we were 9 minutes late.  They may well have a map of the mall.  We hope to see a movie there tomorrow night, and I want to see their penguins.

Thanks so much for helping us set up this blog, Tom.  It has been such fun!

Linda
 
[quote author=Dean & Linda Stock]Thanks so much for helping us set up this blog, Tom.  It has been such fun![/quote]

You're very welcome Linda. I'm one of many here who are glad you decided to write it. We're following along, enjoying "being there" through your writing and your photos.
 
September 7 (Labor Day) Day 108 Edmonton, AB

We started our day by practicing our navigating skills and finally arriving at the Alberta Railway Museum.  We had huge winds last night, and they knocked down the signs showing where to turn.  11/2 hours, two phone calls, and one U-turn later, we found the thin black ribbon of asphalt with trees on each side of it that led to a rail yard.  Even I was fascinated by the enormous snowplow that was at least the height of a caboose.  If you love trains, you will enjoy this. I think all of the members of their club were there working.  They were really proud that they had one train running a short distance.  The enthusiasm of these guys was wonderful, but the museum is mainly the rail yard and a small museum with communication equipment from throughout the last century.  I feel bad saying that even Dean said it was only "OK" because we can see that the guys have put a lot of work into it.
We had a couple of hours before the Telus Science Center closed, and we had wanted to spend more time there.  We correctly solved the mystery in the law enforcement part of the museum, but only after comparing fingerprints, shoeprints, cloth fibers, handwriting, DNA, and evaluating their means. Motive, and opportunity.  We re-visited the DaVinci exhibit, which we didn't get to see all of when we were there before.  It was truly excellent, and everything in the place is well done.  For future visitors, they will have a different special exhibit, but I'm sure it would be good.

Weather:  High of about 70?F, brief periods of rain

Overnighted at Glowing Embers RV Park
 

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September 8, 2009 Day 109 Edmonton, AB

Edmonton's premier horticultural attraction is the Muttart Conservatory.  There are 4 large glass pyramids that act as greenhouses. They represent flowers from 4 regions-tropical, arid, "show" (a special changing exhibit), and temperate. They had several large floral displays planted outside among beautiful trees.  We got a late start(laundry), and we spent about 3 enjoyable hours here.
We drove into downtown looking for a store that has moved, and everything closed by 5:00 (post Labor Day hours) so we went to the River Cree Casino & Resort for dinner.  The buffet was nicely decorated, with very limited selection, satisfactory as to taste, but we wouldn't go again.  It's a 3-year-old cheery, comfortable casino with table games, craps, and slots. The people were very nice and answered questions we had about Alberta.  They told us that they get tornadoes around this time of year.  Their worst ever was on August 31, 1989.  I had noticed a black spherical cloud in the sky yesterday, which prompted that question.

Weather:  High of 61?F, no rain

Overnighted at Glowing Embers RV Park

 

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Marsha/CA said:
FYI, I would NOT rely on Canadian mail into the US for something important.  Can you pay it online? 
Marsha~

We paid our CAlifornia state taxes on-line.  It was a piece of cake--five minutes and it was done.

The Feds were another matter.  Wading through their convoluted website to find out what to do required a large shovel and a lot of time.  We had to join  EFTPS (Electronic Federal Tax Payment System), which was quite an experience.  However, it takes them 15 business days to process your application.  Since our quarterly payments are due on Sept. 15, just 5 days away, it doesn't help us a bit for this time.  I'm going to try using it for our January 15 payment, just to have it all worked out for the future.

I called my CPA, and we decided to mail the payment from the U. S. when we get there.  It will be a few days late, but he says the interest charges will be minimal.

Thanks for the "heads up" re Canadian mail going to U.S.  In talking with the Albertans, they agree with you, but they say it's great within Canada.

Linda

Linda
 
Dean & Linda Stock said:
I called my CPA, and we decided to mail the payment from the U. S. when we get there.  It will be a few days late, but he says the interest charges will be minimal.

Payments to IRS must be mailed by the due date. If you mail the payment by 9/15, you're covered, no matter when they receive it.

If you're still concerned about that, do you have someone at home who can send the payment and you'll pay them back? When my parents traveled full-time (before ATMs and overnight mailing), we had a couple of checks from their checking account to use in an emergency if they called us.

Wendy


 
This year we're using the automatic payment service where the IRS is paid directly from our checking account on the due dates.  No more forgetting about the quarterly 1040-ES filings.
 
Wendy said:
If you're still concerned about that, do you have someone at home who can send the payment and you'll pay them back? When my parents traveled full-time (before ATMs and overnight mailing), we had a couple of checks from their checking account to use in an emergency if they called us.

Wendy

Wendy, what a great idea!  It makes me wonder why we never thought of it!  We will definitely leave signed checks with our daughter when we leave next time.  It would cover house repairs, too, if they should be needed.  THANK YOU!
 
Ned said:
This year we're using the automatic payment service where the IRS is paid directly from our checking account on the due dates.  No more forgetting about the quarterly 1040-ES filings.

I didn't even know you could do that.  We'll have to talk that idea over.  I am so mentally frustrated & fatigued from trying to go through the IRS website that I will check this out in a few days, if Dean is willing to do it this way.  It makes good sense--you just have to make sure you have the money in your checking account.  Do they take it out on the 15th or before?

Linda
 
They take it on the 15th.  I suspect it's too late to set it up for the Sept. payment, but keep it in mind for next year.  I set this up through my CPA.
 
Ned said:
This year we're using the automatic payment service where the IRS is paid directly from our checking account on the due dates.  No more forgetting about the quarterly 1040-ES filings.

Ned:

Sounds like the simplified IRS collection system they have had for years; send them what you have and they will refund anything they think you deserve. ;D ;D
 
September 9, 2009 Day 110 Edmonton, AB

We got off to an early start and stopped at Fraserway Camp Care RV (open 8-5).  They didn't have what we needed, but they ordered a part for the toilet.
I was really looking forward to the Royal Alberta Museum ($16.20/1 senior & 1 adult), and it was everything I hoped it would be and more.  We got there about 9:15 and closed it at 5:00. They had a wonderful frieze showing the history of the people of Alberta.  They had a seasonal photography exhibit, a competition for people from all over the world, and it was spectacular.  Their display of minerals was extensive and of high quality.  We lingered in their First People's section, reading all the explanations.  Dean's picture of the statue by the entrance depicts the settlers who came from all over to get the free land being offered in Alberta. Many of the settlers came from the plains states in the U.S.  We didn't get into their Wild Animals section, and I'd love to go back to see it.  We also missed a lot of the natural history area.
Around 1:00, we took a 5-minute walk to Original Joe's, a restaurant that was recommended.  We both had sweet potato fries and pulled pork sandwiches that melted in our mouths, so good that I am going to download their other sites into my files.  They had a wonderful smooth beer that was made locally, an apricot beer made by Alley Kat, a local brewery.  I know it sounds odd, but it was great!
The Public Schools Museum (free) was open late on Wednesdays, so we set off.  We found an empty parking lot, and a beautiful old school with lots of ornate woodwork.  The school board members wanted the children to feel a sense of privilege and awe so they would want to come to school. We got a personal 2-hour tour.  Some of the items they had on display (butter churn, pencil sharpener, treadle sewing machine, tea kettle) were there to give school children on field trips a feeling of what life was like when the McKay School was built around 1913.  Dean took a picture of the chart of how many "lashings" a student would receive for various infractions. The third floor was the site where the early Provincial Assembly met while waiting for their Capitol building to be built. 

Overnighted at Glowing Embers RV Park
 

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September 10, 2009 Day 111 Edmonton, AB

We had business to do in the morning, but we got to the Alberta Legislature Building in time for the 1:30 tour (every half-hour). Colleen was an excellent guide, and we were her only customers.  We learned that Alberta became a province in 1905, and their first legislature was held in a curling rink, then in a school.  It was designed in 1912, and finished in 1917.  This is amazing because they imported 2,000 metric tons of marble from Quebec.  It was the first building in Alberta with electricity.  The fountain was installed in 1959 when Queen Elizabeth visited.  Dean took a picture of the 5 palms up by the dome.  The seedlings were sent by the state of California, probably as an invitation to come to our Olympics, and they are a thriving 7-meters tall.  Alberta is named after Louise Caroline Alberta, Queen Victoria's fourth daughter who was married to the governor general (he represents the queen and acts as a check and balance).  She never saw Alberta, and Lake Louise was also named after her.
We still don't understand all the intricacies of their system of governing.  We have been told by educated Canadians that the governor-general is just a figurehead, but our guide told us that for a bill to be enacted it requires 4 readings, a positive vote, and the signature of the lieutenant general.  If he says "no", it is not enacted.  The premier is the head of the state government, equal to our governor, and the prime minister is equivalent to our president.  Elections are held when they are "called", every 3-4 years, but they must be held every 5 years.  There's a big brouhaha going on right now, and an election may be called. The Legislature meets at 1:30, Monday-Thursday, from mid-Oct. to early December, and from Feb. to June.
They have had some interesting prime ministers.  "Bible Bill" Abrahart , an Albertan premier, had his own 4-hour Sunday religious radio show.  He wanted for Alberta to print its own currency and supervise its own banks. Bill got mad at the lt. governor because he wouldn't sign the law since it was unconstitutional.
Bill shut off the electricity to the lt. governor's house, causing the pipes to freeze and sold off all the furnishings.  The lt. governors for all provinces are chosen by the governor general in consultation with the premier.  Women got the vote in 1916, while the U. S. woman didn't get that right until 1919.  However, until 1925, women in Canada were considered chattel, but 5 women came into Alberta and forced the issue, carrying it all the way to London, where they prevailed and won "personhood", allowing for their election.  They have had one woman premier.
One premier emphasized education, and to this day if a student has an 80% grade-point-average in 10th grade, he earns $400, in grade 11 he earns $800, and in grade 12, he can earn $1300, for a total of $2500 which can be used for college.
Dean got a call from Camp Care RV, who told him that his part was ready to be picked up, about 24 hours after being ordered.
We went to the West Edmonton Mall about 4:30. We wanted to see the penguins, seals, lizards, etc. in the Deep Cave exhibit, but the shows were over for the day, and the admission was $10 each.  It seemed like a minimal experience with few exhibits, so we passed.  Every Edmontonian says the zoo is really bad, even "am embarrassment", so we'll take a pass on that also.  They have the eating areas well-organized.  All the fast food is together, and the sit-down restaurants together.  We ate at Jungle Jim's.  I had a pineapple chicken wrap & sweet potato fries, and Dean had a hamburger & s.p. fries.  With 2 root beers, the total was $27.15 CN.  The movie, "All About Steve" cost $8.56 each.  The theatre was nice and had 13 screens.

Overnighted at Glowing Embers RV Park
 

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September 11, 2009 Day 112 Edmonton, AB

Dean went to the Alley Kat Brewery to get apricot beer to take home and picked up his RV part while I tried to do everything with WIFI while we have great WIFI.  So often RV parks have advertised WIFI and not had it.
We then went to the Devonian Gardens ($13/adult, $8.50/senior), 5 miles north of Devon.  It is owned by the University of Alberta and primarily functions as an outdoor lab for horticulture students.  It lacks artistry, even in its Japanese Garden.  But it has an interesting Medicinal and Poisonous Garden which features plants like hemlock, opium poppies, and nightshade.  We had perfect weather, so it was nice to stroll among trees, but I would not go back.
We have really enjoyed Edmonton!  If you're going to Alaska, this is a great place to visit.

Weather: Sunny, with a high of 80?F, very slight breeze-JUST PERFECT!

Overnighted at Glowing Embers RV Park
 

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