SteelHeadR
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Stewie Griffin said:Have you ever driven a 6.2/6.5 equipped truck? I had a C3500 with a 6.5 for two years and what a dog, it runs out of power quickly with very little load and the fuel mileage is terrible. I never count those engines as true diesels, they cannot be tuned and when compared to the best (powerstroke, cummins and D-max) motors there is no contest. There is a reason GM was able to put those engines in half ton trucks, they werren't capable of breaking half ton driveline components.
As far as the 6.0, the reason I didn't mention it is because of it's lack of reliability. I have two super duty's, both are crew cabs, both are lariats, my work truck is an 04 dually with a 6.0. Now, it'll pull like a locomotive but I will NEVER tell someone that I recommend that motor. I can tell you that I am one of hundreds of thousands of 6.oh owners who have had to replace head gaskets, bed plate, injectors, EGR cooler (twice), EGR (6 times) and the turbo. Very hefty repair bills and not only that but the 6.0 is the sole reason Ford and International seperated and sales dropped. Now they build an in house 6.7 liter that is extremely impressive if you can afford a 2011, it is capable of 20+ MPG out of the box and it's smooth and quiet power is startling. The 08-10 6.4 sequential turbo is a very good motor too but fuel mileage isn't very good, too bad there isn't a sub/x style vehicle in chryslers stables, a sub or x with a cummins would be a good seller.
No, I haven't driven a GM diesel. Neither am I recommending one. You commented that GM never put a diesel in a 'burb, when in fact they did. Whether it meets your or anyone else's expectations is a completely different matter.
I also did not recommend the 6.0L Ford diesel. Mentioning when something was made is not a recommendation. Fact is, the 6.0L engine is famous (infamous?) for its many problems. I have heard that this engine was Ford's worst for warranty claims up until model year 2006 when it became its least warranty claim engine.
All US built diesels made after 2006 have a lot of extra anti-pollution gear on them that makes me question their reliability. Since these are relatively new designs, as far as the anti-pollution gear goes, it may be a while before we really know how reliable they are. I'm thinking that as the part count goes up, the reliability will come down. That seems to be the way of most machines.
As to what would be a great truck, my dream machine would have a Ford chassis and cab, a GM / Allison tranny and suspension, and a Dodge Cummins engine. Not that this is ever likely to show up but I would think that it would be a pretty decent rig.
Ed