xrated said:I just looked up a 255RR Toy Hauler. 6900 lbs empty, and 11,500 lbs GVWR! That's NOT a trailer for an F150. That one would overload a bunch of F250 truck's
John From Detroit said:I was just talking to the owner of the 5er who pulled in next to me.. He tows with a GMC 4500 that is the same class as a 450 Ford.
Mudstoy said:I'm Looking at a 255RR toy Hauler just over 6000lb. One dealer says can be pulled by 1/2 ton truck other one says no. Truck set for 9800lb I know that's not the same so how do i know. Any help will be great Thanks
longhaul said:1/2 ton trucks come with GVWR up to 8600 lbs and 6000 RAWR on down to small 6600 gvwr and tiny 3200 rawr all depending on model and year of manufacturer.
The only F150 that can handle a trailer that size is the HD model with a 8200-7850 GVWR and 4900 RAWR.
Any gas or diesel 3/4 ton truck can safely tow that size trailer.
I see many F150 owners with 6800-7050 GVWR and 3800-4050 RAWR complain their truck didn't carry the load as expected. They simply choose the wrong F150.
All F150 don't have the same capabilities
Mudstoy said:I'm Looking at a 255RR toy Hauler just over 6000lb. One dealer says can be pulled by 1/2 ton truck other one says no. Truck set for 9800lb I know that's not the same so how do i know. Any help will be great Thanks
xrated said:Not true. My previous truck, a 2011 F250 CrewCab, 6.7 Diesel, 4x4, Shortbed XLT had a payload of 2148 lbs. That trailer, loaded up to the GVWR (11,500 lbs) would have put 2300 lbs of pin weight on the truck, plus another 175-200 lbs of hitch would have put 2500 lbs on it......which is 350 lbs over the payload capacity. Then there's that pesky issue of driver weight, passenger(s) weight, tools, firewood, luggage, and who knows what else to add. Like I said, that big of a trailer would overload a LOT of 3/4 Ton trucks.
And thus poised on a very slippery slope. Will he go to the scales every few trips to make sure he is still OK? Will he tell wife or kids they can't bring a favorite item cause the truck is already at max load? Maybe, but it's not something I would place a bet on....but he just won't be able to load it up near the cargo capacity.
Gary RV_Wizard said:And thus poised on a very slippery slope. Will he go to the scales every few trips to make sure he is still OK? Will he tell wife or kids they can't bring a favorite item cause the truck is already at max load? Maybe, but it's not something I would place a bet on.
Besides, the only 255RR toyhauler I can find is a Cherokee 5W, so even near-empty that trailer will place something north of 1400 lbs on the truck suspension (20% of laoded weight). Rare is the F150 that can carry that much and some passengers as well.
Still not true.....however your using the trucks payload sticker for carrying a load in the bed and the rest of the real world uses axle rating to carry the load in the bed.Like I said, that big of a trailer would overload a LOT of 3/4 Ton trucks.
longhaul said:Still not true.....however your using the trucks payload sticker for carrying a load in the bed and the rest of the real world uses axle rating to carry the load in the bed.
LOL... the vehicles FAWR/RAWR on the vehicles cert placard is the lessor of the vehicle mfg wheel/brakes/suspension and tire ratings. So we don't want to eliminate tire rating. They trump all.xrated said:If your statement were true, then there wouldn't be a separate Payload/CCC sticker for the truck....all there would be is the RAWR and the FAWR. And while we're at it, let's just eliminate the tire load rating too!
Each and every weight rating was put there for a purpose, and each and every manufacturer will clearly state in the owner's manual of the truck to never exceed ANY of the load capacity ratings listed for the truck!
Wood said:It can be towed by a 1/2, but only the ones within the ratings.
The Tundra SR5 double cab V8, Silverado with the Max Trailing package will handle it just fine with payload to spare , and the F150 with the heavy duty payload package is another truck.
A 3/4 isn't needed unless you just want one, but not needed.
Don't buy a vehicle based on 11,000 lbs, unless you plan on adding that extra weight, and go by the dry weight, weight the trailer for actual weight, but only add to your trailer what you can safely tow.
I'm wondering where you came up with the Payload for the Tundra. I wanted to get another Tundra but he payloads on any I looked at were under 1500 pounds. Went with a HD 150.