Tulecreeper
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If they come here illegally, they're riff-raff. The ones doing it legally will get my handshake.
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Tulecreeper
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You can't possibly believe that the majority of these people are 'asylum worthy'.
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So if their families are being murdered and children being tortured back at home, you think they should stay there, keep waiting on hold for their asylum application to be processed?
Tulecreeper
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Again, you can't believe these people are all seeking 'asylum'. That's just a catch-all word word for, "We want some free stuff, and the US will provide it."
Tulecreeper
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No, but that is not happening to the vast majority of people streaming towards the border. If it were, it would be on the news every single night because the media never lets a good crisis go to waste if it fits their agenda.
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And what "free" stuff are all these immigrants getting? I'm just curious, because I might want to pretend to be one if it's better than life riding around in a Newmar.
Tulecreeper
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In a lot of the big cities. Free housing in apartment buildings that have been refurbished at taxpayer expense; SNAP benefits, etc. Not better than (or as good as) you have it, but better than where they came from. Most of this 'free stuff' is from the cities and states, federal freebies are harder to get for non-citizens.
That type ignorance was on full display too back in the 70's in S. Texas when the Vietnamese settled on the Gulf Coast. They bought shrimp boats and were outfishing the good old boys, so their response was to attempt to harass them into leaving. Only problem for bubba was these people grew up in a real war zone, an ignorant redneck with his cowboy boots on the wrong feet certainly wasn't going to scare them. Now if you go down to Palacios or Aransas Pass you'll find that through hardwork and perserverence most of the processing plants and fish houses are owned by the children of those immigrants. Moral of that story being you can sit on your ass and whine or get off your ass and work, the Vietnamese chose the latter.
The overwhelming majority of the occupants of those facilities were born and bred right here.
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I have no idea and that's why there are immigration courts that hold hearings to determine if the asylum claim is legitimate under US law (which doesn't necessarily mean easy to qualify for). Most of the "catch & release" problem is the lack of timely court hearings, since under the current law an alien can stay in the US until their hearing determines their status. In other words, they are legally here until that time, even though they aren't residents or have green cards. Congress could make the whole issue go away by funding & staffing adequate Immigration courts to get more timely processing, or by requiring asylum seekers to remain in detention until their hearing (the latter is really expensive if taxpayers have to foot the bill for "humanitarian" facilities).
That's not your call, it's the law. Don't like the law, then change the law.
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I find that interesting. When was SNAP eligibility expanded to undocumented "illegal" immigrants? HUD Low income programs?
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That would have happened but the recent immigration reform effort was scuttled in order to keep it as a campaign issue. Otherwise congress has no say so in requiring detention before immigration hearings, the Federal Courts have already ruled minor children cannot be held in dentention. Keeping kids in cages and/or separating families isn't what civilized societies practice. At least we don't yet.
As Hannah Arendt wrote in the early 60's of her concept termed the " banality of evil", she was referring to the argument that the SS Guards running the camps were otherwise just the kid next door. Eichmann was just a regular guy. If you pretend they were aberrations then you don't have to fear it could happen here. Her point was that if you demonize a group enough that you make them subhuman, taking the next step isn't that much of a leap. That begins with calling them rapists and murderers, " poisoning the blood of our nation", riff-raff, taking free stuff, living at taxpayer expense, taking our jobs,......
Tulecreeper
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Yes, I know. Again, an opinion.
Tulecreeper
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I know - to a large population of illegals.
When it was determined that the large population of illegals had to feed their overwhelming majority of occupants born and bred right here.
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Tulecreeper
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I call dibs on the "riff-raff" and "free stuff" quotes. I never uttered the other terms.
Those again are opinions, not facts. However nonetheless, doesn't matter who a child is born to in this country, they're no less a US citizen than you. They're not riff-raff.
BTW, the overwhelming majority of SNAP goes to provide meals for children who would otherwise go hungry. How many meals has providing breakfast for children caused you to miss or otherwise affected your way of life?
You should be proud of yourself. You're in with a fine group.
Oldgator73
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Those seeking asylum are not eligible for SNAP. Maybe WIC. Those that seek asylum are eligible to work which mean they pay taxes and they pay taxes on goods and services. So they contribute to whatever benefits they are receiving. Those that cross the border “illegally” receive no benefits.
You're right, WIC benefits are provided so kids won't go hungry and immigration status is not considered. Those here illegally aren't elgible for obvious reasons.
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