WeatherWunder
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I am glad your dog is okay. Those are scary times.
boatbuilder said:Sometimes I think the dogs are better mannered than their owners.
vulcanbill said:Its sad that these conditions exist but its not terribly different that parenting people. They'll get away with what they can and their nature will take over. That applies to kids and dogs. I've seen some horrible little monster children that I can't believe were allowed to become what they are. It is hard to aim contempt in the right place but I don't blame the kids anymore than I blame the dogs. It's how they were raised and parented. Bad dogs, with a few exceptions, can likely be traced back to not notsogreat people.
vulcanbill said:Its sad that these conditions exist but its not terribly different that parenting people. They'll get away with what they can and their nature will take over. That applies to kids and dogs. I've seen some horrible little monster children that I can't believe were allowed to become what they are. It is hard to aim contempt in the right place but I don't blame the kids anymore than I blame the dogs. It's how they were raised and parented. Bad dogs, with a few exceptions, can likely be traced back to not notsogreat people.
vulcanbill said:Its sad that these conditions exist but its not terribly different that parenting people. They'll get away with what they can and their nature will take over. That applies to kids and dogs. I've seen some horrible little monster children that I can't believe were allowed to become what they are. It is hard to aim contempt in the right place but I don't blame the kids anymore than I blame the dogs. It's how they were raised and parented. Bad dogs, with a few exceptions, can likely be traced back to not notsogreat people.
Mc2guy said:Well, the primary difference in my mind is that humans have the ability to rationalize, and therefore "choose" their behavior, no matter how awful. Dogs are reverting to "primal instinct" and have no ability to feel empathy or rationalize, so the "bad" humans bother me more.
That said, your comparison is appropriate from a statistics stand point. In the U.S., dog bites caused 500,000 hospital visits a year, while violent assaults from humans caused 1.35 Million hospital visits. On a population normalized basis (hospital trips per human or per dog), the numbers are startlingly similar (450 per 100,000 for humans, 600 per 100,000 for dogs) I wonder if there is somehow a perverse correlation here?
barrelslime said:Im not bashing your thread but I too cant stand dogs in campground because some people wont control their animals. They bark uncontrollably, and wont leash them, or pick up their pooh. I love dogs and for many years raised and trained prize english setter quail dogs. But leave em at home.
WeatherWunder said:Using this theory, the same could be for some people with their children in campgrounds. With animals, it just comes down to responsible ownership. IMHO.
vulcanbill said:And your station in life. Frankly, I think my dogs add way more enjoyment to the lives of the people that get to experience them than do a bunch of screaming trolls flying through the campground on their bicycles.
WeatherWunder said:It takes all kinds!
Fastcar said:It has been my experience that if you come ac cross a dog that is a idiot you will find that the dog is pretty much reflection of it's owner.