Yes, they put out a mayday after the first power failure.You can see some trucks and other vehicles before the ship got close, but it looks like traffic was halted shortly before the collision.
Yes, they put out a mayday after the first power failure.You can see some trucks and other vehicles before the ship got close, but it looks like traffic was halted shortly before the collision.
Yeah, I reckon it takes power to move the Rudder. You can see in video they had started the turn to Starboard then the the power loss, and the ship still veering to Starboard.Sad for sure. I recently heard the ship lost power and could not steer.
An anchor won’t catch if there isn’t catenary in the anchor line. If it’s pulling out taut it isn’t stopping anything, at best it might slow the vessel down just from the drag. Additionally the crew couldn’t stop the cable playing out without power to brake the winch.Yeah, I reckon it takes power to move the Rudder. You can see in video they had started the turn to Starboard then the the power loss, and the ship still veering to Starboard.
Also, dropping anchor only works if there is something down there for the anchor to hook on to.
I was reading up on the anchor question earlier today. It seems this ship weighed about 220,000 tons, and would typically take 30 to 45 minutes for the anchor to set depending on the material and the vessel speed. In other words, it would have been of no help in this situationAn anchor won’t catch if there isn’t catenary in the anchor line. If it’s pulling out taut it isn’t stopping anything, at best it might slow the vessel down just from the drag. Additionally the crew couldn’t stop the cable playing out without power to brake the winch.
Yep, ships are measured by how much water they displace. If you figure ~8 lbs to a gallon of salt water, displacing 220,000 tons of water takes a big ship.I was reading up on the anchor question earlier today. It seems this ship weighed about 220,000 tons, and would typically take 30 to 45 minutes for the anchor to set depending on the material and the vessel speed. In other words, it would have been of no help in this situation
Todays news said the ship did drop the rear anchor when they issued the mayday call.What has a Russian missile attack in Ukraine to do with this tragedy?
Meantime anyway, the most ridiculous questions from the press were what nationality was the crew and why didn’t they drop the anchor? For one, those ships are ordinarily crewed by people from many different countries and that’s irrelevant anyway, the engineers are total professionals and the crew wasn’t in charge of navigation, the harbor pilots were. For two, there was no way there was time to get someone in place to drop the anchor in the interim between the first power outage and the collision and even doubtful that had it been possible it would have made any difference.
Exactly.. They did everything possible to prevent the disaster. Even if you know there is no chance you do all you can and pray it works.They knew the anchor would not help, but they could say they TRIED SOMETHING.
Charles
In the last fifty years, the size of vessels plying these waters has grown exponentially. There have been reports of "close calls" in the Panama Canal, as well.Between this and the Suez canal incident a couple years ago, I'd say they have some serious issues with control and safety systems that did not exist in the past. If these are newer ships or older ships retrofitted with the latest, maybe the latest is not the greatest.
That bridge has seen 50 years of ships passing under it. The Suez has had who knows how many thousands of transits without a problem so severe. Something has changed, and not in a good way.
Amen to thatI am just relieved that this did not happen during "Rush Hour."
From what I've heard, there are redundant and/or backup power systems so that a modicum of steering and propulsion capabilities are retained. All tested when the local pilot boards to guide the ship out of port. Inspected and signed off on a regular basis by the U.S.C.G. who also insisted they had no culpability in the Exxon Valdez grounding.Seems to me that there should a separate power source for critical systems, like communications and steering
I agree that they seemed to completely rule out terrorism when they knew so little. I would have been OK if they said nothing they have seen points to it at that point but to rule it out completely so quickly is bothersome.In todays international political climate, I understand why the crew makeup would be questioned. All it would take is one bad actor to sabotage the electric system to start this. I am surprised the powers that be discounted terrorism so quickly without even being on the ship, rescue is our highest priority right now they said. No multitasking in the team? Everyone is not a diver or boat operator. Seems some investigators could have gotten to the boat before any possible evidence could be tampered with.
I don't normally think conspiracy first, and not there, nor familiar with container ship operations, but those questions sure come to mind.