But you can sneak in a hypersonic missile that can't yet be seen on radar or intercepted. Future wars will be fought with groups of thousands of drones and missiles.
If Hawaii Is Attacked
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dave54
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Did UK ask for NATO assistance under the treaty? IIRC, the US did provide satellite imagery.
If have seen the same argument made by other bloggers. They are all opinions. The only discussion that matters is how the other NATO members will regard the treaty.
Melilla and Ceuta are part of Spain proper, not territories. They are in Africa, not Europe. If someone attacked those Spanish exclaves, would that trigger a NATO response?
If have seen the same argument made by other bloggers. They are all opinions. The only discussion that matters is how the other NATO members will regard the treaty.
Melilla and Ceuta are part of Spain proper, not territories. They are in Africa, not Europe. If someone attacked those Spanish exclaves, would that trigger a NATO response?
John From Detroit
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That was my point so clearly I agree.
And in addition the biggest "Tooth" in NATO's teeth is the USA. .You attack Hawaii (OR Alaska) You might as well attack Washington DC.. and the response from the US Military is going to make what the rest of NATO can do to you look like children playing.. ON the list of Bad Ideas.. Attacking the USA is #1.. For no matter what others may claim the USA is by far the most powerful country on the planet. We have proved it a few times.
A big part of what made us succeed was patriotism. Which is now on a sad decline. The younger generation that would be fighting a war seems very confused about everything including what form of government is best. It may take another big threat to wake up the woke.
Robert K
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Hell China has snuck a couple balloons in.
We pay for most of NATO anyways so it's a wash
Doesn’t appear to me to be the younger generations or the “woke” that presently pose the greatest threat to our form of gov’t. Being an easily persuaded idiot is multi generational. And “patriotism” as observed by Samuel Johnson is “the last refuge of a scoundrel”. I would include pandering religion as well.
gwinger
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No, but they do want the oil produced there. Most goes to Washington and California, but a good bit is exported.Alaska doesn’t need protection. Nobody else wants it.
Don't understand why California wants it though. They are trying to totally eliminate fossil fuels.
darsben
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Merriam Webster definition of "woke" aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social injustice.
The definition we need to be aware of is fascist "
1 a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.
You decide who you would rather be. Guess I am woke
John From Detroit
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I just remembered Alaska is our EASTERN most state. extends all the way from -Longitude to +Longitude: right across the zero line. So where in the world does the pacific become the atlantic?
gwinger
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Somewhere in the Arctic. Wait, you have the Bering Sea and the Arctic ocean in between them. Technically they do not join in the north.
At the south, they meet at Cape Horn.
Chef Duane
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Technically it is our easternmost AND westernmost state.
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Ray-IN
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+Northernmost+largest.Technically it is our easternmost AND westernmost state.
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darsben
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Don,'t tell Texas they won't believe there is a larger state
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Oldgator73
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Texas wants out. Just wish we all got a vote.
Chef Duane
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I know you're joking but most Texans realize that Alaska is physically larger.
Chef Duane
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Texas wants out of what?
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Oldgator73
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Texas has expressed a desire to secede from the Union a couple of times. They declared secession in 1861 when Texas joined the Confederate States.
Chef Duane
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LOL! Yeah, that canard comes up every so often. The 'Texit" movement makes a lot of noise but doesn't ever seem to get any support from actual Texans. The current drive got about 140,000 signatures. The population of Texas is about 29.15 million. I wouldn't say that "Texas has expressed a desire to secede" when only about 2% of folks signed a petition. And Texas can't secede legally. So regardless of what the rest of the uninformed States think, Texas ain't going anywhere.
No, Texas can’t legally secede from the U.S., despite popular myth
The theme of independence has recurred throughout the history of Texas, which was a republic from 1836–45. But the Civil War established that a state cannot secede.
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Oldgator73
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We’ll just have to think of another way.LOL! Yeah, that canard comes up every so often. The 'Texit" movement makes a lot of noise but doesn't ever seem to get any support from actual Texans. The current drive got about 140,000 signatures. The population of Texas is about 29.15 million. I wouldn't say that "Texas has expressed a desire to secede" when only about 2% of folks signed a petition. And Texas can't secede legally. So regardless of what the rest of the uninformed States think, Texas ain't going anywhere.
No, Texas can’t legally secede from the U.S., despite popular myth
The theme of independence has recurred throughout the history of Texas, which was a republic from 1836–45. But the Civil War established that a state cannot secede.
Chef Duane
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Another way for what? Are you wanting Texas to secede?
