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[Babe2201]

All anyone need to do is to look at what took place in Detroit when jobs were lost due to serious changes in available jobs when the changes in the auto industry took place. This goes the same way in each and every town across this nation when people no longer support their community's businesses. The entire infrastructure suffers.

This includes your first responders, your local schools, your roads, quality healthcare professionals, and even the desire for new businesses to come to your community and hire. When we travel we take every chance we can to drive off the interstate thru small towns. There are so many abandoned and boarded up stores and and falling down homes due to the loss of mom and pop jobs that thrived and made this country prosper threw the industrial revolution.

But as long as their saving a buck and a little time who cares what it does to the local community right?

 

[Jayflight]

But as long as their saving a buck and a little time who cares what it does to the local community right?

There are some advantages to the online shopping. Online shopping has provided a larger range of products that's not stocked or available to be brought in locally. But I don't ever recall seeing banners from any high profile online outlets on little league field fences or high school football field scoreboards in a similar manner as what we see from local businesses. These businesses support the simple things in life I guess, which gets overlooked . My money and purchases goes directly to any and all local businesses that provides in person service if at all possible. Its very rare that I let price sway my decision.

Of course it costs money in so many areas unrelated to the product to stock a variety of products. I guess I will never own any 40 foot diesel pushers from the potential savings. But I don't deal with the potential hassles either like not being able to talk to a real human being by ordering in inferior products that needs to be returned. Insults will not change my way of doing business.

 

[Wasillaguy]

WSJ just did a story about Instagram. The kiddie diddlers have set up a system of communicating the trade in child porn and even arranging "meet ups".
Researchers found emojis were used for code- an image of a map (M.A.P.) indicates the person is a "minor attracted person". The image of a cheese pizza (C.P.) represents "child porn".
They also found that Instagram's algorithms were matching up sellers with buyers.

These are the kind of convenience features you just aren't going to get from brick and mortar operations.

 

[Boat Bum]

The economist Joseph Schumpeter coined the term "creative destruction" to label "the process of industrial mutation that revolutionizes the economic structures from within, destroying the old one, creating a new one"

That's now called disruptive innovation.

 

[Onyrlef]

That's now called disruptive innovation.

I like it. Nevertheless you aren't going to slow it down or stop it anymore than cursing the weather will change anything or anymore than the Luddites altered the course of the textile industry by burning a few looms.

 

[jymbee]

I think most of the reticence with online interaction is analogous to learning another language. To kids ( they're all mostly kids to us) who grew up speaking computereze navigating this or that web site is as natural as walking and talking. The notion that interpersonal interaction is preferable to a few clicks and done is as foreign to them as it would have been to a boomer to prefer gathering around the radio on Saturday night for The Lone Ranger to watching Bonanza in color or having ice delivered being preferable to a refrigerator. The economist Joseph Schumpeter coined the term "creative destruction" to label "the process of industrial mutation that revolutionizes the economic structures from within, destroying the old one, creating a new one"
Drive-In movies were killed off by by VHS, VHS was killed off by DVD's, DVD's were killed off by streaming as absolutely as any brick and mortar that is in direct competition with online shopping ie., book stores, isn't necessarily a long term proposition.

WHOA!! Bonanza is now in color?!?

 

[Onyrlef]

WHOA!! Bonanza is now in color?!?

Living Color

 

[Jayflight]

The return of the vinyl record speaks volumes to the fact that some of us are not relics . Vinyl record sales surpassed sales of CDs in the past couple of years, which was the trend and rage just a few short years ago, in speaking about many of detailed objections of the changing trends in the booking of campsites. The digital camera is removing the true lasting memories that the 35mm camera provided and is providing for our families.

While there are a lot of photos stored on sd cards and flash drives and in the cloud, this does not replace hands on photos to share with offspring such as grandkids. Our previous generations that lived thru the wars and was documented on photos cannot be reproduced by the in person folks thats long passed and provided the history in pictures in real time.

 

[Ex-Calif]

The return of the vinyl record speaks volumes to the fact that some of us are not relics . Vinyl record sales surpassed sales of CDs in the past couple of years, which was the trend and rage just a few short years ago, in speaking about many of detailed objections of the changing trends in the booking of campsites. The digital camera is removing the lasting memories that the 35mm camera provided and is providing for our families. While there are a lot of photos stored on sd cards and flash drives and in the cloud, this do not replace hands on photos to share with offspring such as grandkids.

It seems every generation of Yuppie goes through many "fads" - We did wine, cigars and so on.

Of course we did the whole audiophile thing, TV Video thing - I have beta tapes, VHS, VHS-C, 12 inch laser discs, VCD and DVD - I can play VCDs on my old PS2 and DVDs on an old Samsung DVD player. I have no idea why I am hanging on the the tape stuff except one day I plan to transfer all the stuff "I" recorded onto digital.

But vinyl? That's like eating rice with chopsticks. Hello China? You've seen spoons. Are you just being stubborn or what.

The vinyl guys will all talk about the recording quality, tube amps, yada, yada, yada but TBH I haven't sat on the couch with a headset just listening to an album since I was like 16.

I have like 30gb of audio in my phone. Imagine hauling that much vinyl and equipment around in your car or RV - LOL

 

[Jayflight]

I have like 30gb of audio in my phone. Imagine hauling that much vinyl and equipment around in your car or RV - LOL

I actually installed a real record player in my 60s Road Runner that played vinyl records.

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/04/record-players-were-the-infotainment-systems-of-the-1950s-and-60s/index.htm#:~:text=A%20new%20technology%20came%20on%20the%20market%20in,on%20a%20record%20player%20mounted%20under%20the%20dash.

 

[Onyrlef]

It seems every generation of Yuppie goes through many "fads" - We did wine, cigars and so on.

Of course we did the whole audiophile thing, TV Video thing - I have beta tapes, VHS, VHS-C, 12 inch laser discs, VCD and DVD - I can play VCDs on my old PS2 and DVDs on an old Samsung DVD player. I have no idea why I am hanging on the the tape stuff except one day I plan to transfer all the stuff "I" recorded onto digital.

But vinyl? That's like eating rice with chopsticks. Hello China? You've seen spoons. Are you just being stubborn or what.

The vinyl guys will all talk about the recording quality, tube amps, yada, yada, yada but TBH I haven't sat on the couch with a headset just listening to an album since I was like 16.

I have like 30gb of audio in my phone. Imagine hauling that much vinyl and equipment around in your car or RV - LOL

At the end of the day too, let's be perfectly honest about it, comparing the audio quality of vinyl to CD is more of a romantic thing than it is objective. When I was in the Army in Europe and as the services transitioned to all volunteer one of the benefits ( among many) was a relatively generous pay increase. We lived in gov't housing, the wife worked for AAFES and we had no overhead, ie., we had more money coming in than we knew what to do with. So I became an audiophile, amassing a studio quality stereo system and an album collection which over the years numbered in the thousands. Too make a long story short, fast forward 20 years and the first time I heard a CD playback I was stunned, this was the definition of pure. The album collection is long gone and the CD collection is gathering dust, now I just carry my phone, throw on a pair of Bose sunglasses with audio in the frame, select a music app, jump on my bike or in the kayak and go. Nope, streaming audio isn't the same as listening to Jimmy Witherspoon's " I had a dream" on vinyl, but it's not worse. And in post script, vinyl record sales having surpassed sales of CD's is a low bar, who's going to buy a CD when you can access virtually any piece of music ever recorded and play it back most anywhere with a device in your back pocket that has more computing capability than the Johnson Space Center during the Apollo era?

 

[Wasillaguy]

I, too, was in love with digital/CD as a young man. Bought one of the first CD players and the first truly digital album, "Brothers in Arms", by Dire Straits.
They actually had a code on the CD cover for a while- DDD meant digitally recorded, digitally mastered, digitally reproduced.

As my electronics career went on, I started to admire analog electronics more and more. You can tweak and adjust an analog circuit. It's artistic, where digital is cold and always precise.
Analog circuits will weaken or distort with component degradation. Digital just works or it don't.
I have a room full of Teac, Kenwood, Bose, Sansui, Technics, etc. and repairing them was my winter hobby until the cost of shipping these big beasts made it impossible to make a buck reselling them. Most of what was selling on the bay a couple years back was going to Japanese collectors, back where it came from.

Oh, and Jayflight is my hero with the record player in the car.

 

[Old_Crow]

Oh, and Jayflight is my hero with the record player in the car.

According to a story my wife told me, which was later confirmed by her brother, my father-in-law had a vinyl record player in some big old boat Buick back in the late 50's-early 60's.

 

[Onyrlef]

According to a story my wife told me, which was later confirmed by her brother, my father-in-law had a vinyl record player in some big old boat Buick back in the late 50's-early 60's.

My dad's '64 Chevelle had a record player, we just never figured out why.

 

[Jayflight]

The record players were a hit at the sat night hang out at the drive ins. Of course we would have the car hops with the phone in orders delivered to us as we impressed the girls with the record player music and our rides. But this was the general picture.

 

[Ex-Calif]

t the end of the day too, let's be perfectly honest about it, comparing the audio quality of vinyl to CD is more of a romantic thing than it is objective.

I didn't want to pick that fight but I agree 100% - LOL...

Everyone has heard the "scratching/crackling" when they drop the needle. Also, at 70 mph with the windows down... LOL...

This ain't new - Here's fun Steve Martin bit - Pretty sure he was drunk or high when he did this...