Must have missed it before. That pretty much sums it all up. Thanks again for your replies and info. It really is nice to have all of this knowledge and help available with a few clicks and keystrokes. If everything goes right, we may be getting a 5er, (our first rv), in a couple of weeks. I am worse about that right now than the kids are right now about Christmas.....but that's a good thing. It seems that the end of the year and off-season is a really good time to shop for one. Thanks again, and I hope everyone has a great weekend and holiday season, no matter what you celebrate! Paul