catblaster said:I'm with you guys....I quit Autocad when they went to the GUI program. Tired of trying to learn all the symbols when trying to make a simple drawing and could do it faster with the keyboard and shortcuts. BTW what was so bad about wordperfect or wordstar?? Its like the symbols they have placed on the buttons and knobs of our vehicles, jut put a label on them instead of some arbitrary symbol...might as well be Chinese.....rant button off now
When dBASE II was introduced many years ago, all of the WordStar shortcuts were included - and in their latest complete rewrite of that old package - they are still there. As with you the only ones I still use are copy and paste - Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V. Remember the SEX D cursor movements?John From Detroit said:I only use a few basic shortcuts myself but CTRL C, X and V are my favorites.. I mean if my hands are on the KB.. I will select a portion to highlight using the SHIFT and cursor or other navigation keys.
jje1960 said:Was looking for something in a cabinet a couple of weeks ago... There sat a brand new unopened OEM package DOS... Yea right, I'm not a pack rat....
Something more friendly has come along. Chromebook.gmsboss1 said:I think I'll find some way to keep the old laptop running (on Vista Home Premium) until something more user friendly comes along.....
Tom, I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 tablet - with an external Bluetooth keyboard. Is that essentially a Chromebook? Was a bit worried about only Wi-Fi but with FoxFi on my Samsung smartphone I can get on line most all the time. OTOH, though Wi-Fi is out there most everywhere - good Wi-Fi isn't.SeilerBird said:Something more friendly has come along. Chromebook.
One of finest points about Windows 8.1 is the fact that a single keystroke takes you to your desktop where you will find, essentially - Windows 7. The praise level for 7 (especially after the fiasco of Vista) has been very high. Mainly because it looks an feels like XP, but with much more capability. For example, I especially love the ease of networking several 7's together - or a 7 with an 8.1. Lots of RVers are doing this so as to share two machines.gmsboss1 said:I think I'll find some way to keep the old laptop running (on Vista Home Premium) until something more user friendly comes along.....
No it is not the same thing. How long does it take to boot? Chromebooks take 8 seconds. It runs Windows products so it is vulnerable to viruses and malware, Chromebooks are not. So if you want to run Windows programs then this is not the laptop for you. However if you want to kiss MS goodbye it is a great way to do it.Bob Buchanan said:Tom, I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 tablet - with an external Bluetooth keyboard. Is that essentially a Chromebook? Was a bit worried about only Wi-Fi but with FoxFi on my Samsung smartphone I can get on line most all the time. OTOH, though Wi-Fi is out there most everywhere - good Wi-Fi isn't.
gmsboss1 said:Further, I am astonished that to make Win8 usable for the average user, the experts direct the average user to jump through the hoops of adding myriad fixes and work-arounds. That necessity alone highlights the very reason the Win8 is hated, and apparently the hate is richly deserved.
I think I'll find some way to keep the old laptop running (on Vista Home Premium) until something more user friendly comes along.....
Ned said:IF people would stop fighting their computer and change a few simple options, they would be much happier.
SargeW said:Sounds like you should give a seminar at the next rally Ned! I would be the first in line to sign up!
So true, it seems. Every user I work with that expresses the kind of hate stuff I read here when asked what tutorial, on line help, or any kind of "how to" literature prior to working with 8.1 responds, none - or very little. I don't knock that as I also will begin any new package by just pounding around. But will then dig in by "reading the manual".Ned said:But people's confirmation bias won't let them even explore what Windows 8.1 can do.
I wondered about that with you, Ned. I suspect that most users just click to the desktop vs. spending their session via the tiles or menus from the Start Screen. But that is probably because most do not have a touch screen - which was the whole idea to move to a tablet type app tile interface and always on line.As I've said, my Windows 8.1 looks almost exactly like my previous Windows 7 desktop, I rarely see the start screen and then only when I want to, and I used no special fixes or any 3rd party addons, just the built in Windows 8.1 settings.