Looky, Looky What Wyoming Wants To Do

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Laws can be changed back if necessary, so it's not a big deal, IMO. If problems are expected by year 2035 or whatever, they will change the law by 2034.

EVs could even be replaced by a better idea by then. Often, the newest technology becomes the oldest the fastest.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
TheBar said:
Those free charging stations are propelling the EV market. Once the war is won free charging will disappear and you may pay the equivalent of $10/gallon.
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I doubt that will happen here in Reno. Casinos here are happy to pay for your charging, as long as it isn't too fast!

The norm here in Reno is free AC charging up to 16KWs for Teslas, less than half that for J-1772 (7.2KW is very common) at countless places.

I have had thousands of free miles in all my EVs here. It's not just casinos, for now. Free charging at City Halls, even at the tourist traps such as in Virgina City. While that could change, I assume the casinos will always have free charging.

Also, I can find free charging in CA. Even free DC fast charging at the Donner Summit Rest Stop. Or free slow AC charging at the Colfax, CA train station and some other places.

One could easily survive on 100% free charging here in Reno with any EV. But I normally charge at home because it is often more convenient. But only 11.7 cents per KWH here so that is a 330- mile charge at about $8.19. That is for my 70 KWH battery in my Tesla (11.7 cents times 70). My other EVs will cost less for the same range. They are a lot lighter than my Tesla.

However, my Chevy Bolt is now in Auburn, where electricity costs 28 cents per KWH. To charge my same Tesla there would cost me $20.16. But they have EV plans that reduce that a little as long as I do not charge at the peak hours. Non-peak in Auburn, CA is anytime from 2200 hrs to 1500 hrs, seven days per week, includes holidays. I guess they only know how to do it by time.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
Skookum said:
Alaska still has dry villages and cities……
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Where? Even NV has such. Alcohol sales are prohibited on most Native American reservations and there are many such places here in NV. Such as the Pyramid Lake Area, just east of here.

My Harley and me at Pyramid Lake (BTW, that is Anaho Island behind me, lake is MUCH larger):

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DonTom said:
Where? Even NV has such. Alcohol sales are prohibited on most Native American reservations and there are many such places here in NV. Such as the Pyramid Lake Area, just east of here.

My Harley and me at Pyramid Lake (BTW, that is Anaho Island behind me, lake is MUCH larger):
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I think I was illustrating how someone from Alaska was griping about alcohol in California, when Alaska actually has far more restrictions on where it can be purchased and/or consumed.

You asked where:
 
Skookum said:
think I was illustrating how someone from Alaska was griping about alcohol in California, when Alaska actually has far more restrictions on where it can be purchased and/or consumed.
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I had no idea they made so many changes in the late 1990's. But I don't drink booze much, so it has no effect on me.

I cannot even remember the last time I tased any type of booze, but I have a very old "1.75 litres" bottle of Myer's Jamaican rum here in this house. It must be at least 20 years old, but I am not sure. It's still half full.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
Larry N. said:
My first thought when I read about this "proposed resolution" (not even a law) was that it's a statement about how stupid it is to completely ban ICE vehicles in 10-15 years, without even knowing what will transpire, what new technology might appear. Obviously economics do play a big part, but I think it's trying to say that the bans that are law (or soon will be) need to be rethought.

The above isn't anything to do with my personal position on any of this, it's just the thoughts that first came to mind on hearing about the Wyoming "proposed resolution."
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Where are they banning ICE vehicles in 10 to 15 years in North America?
 
Lithium mining is worse for the environment than drilling for oil. Imagine the countryside if all vehicles ran on lithium batteries. How much do we have vs. how much we'd need and how much we'd have to buy from our enemies? I don't know the answer to that one but "they" need to take it into consideration.
 
TheBar said:
Remember the remote interior of east Wyoming is one of the least populated areas with minimal electric, no cell phone infrastructure, and few passable roads. Most of you have never seen real rural where people live many miles from the nearest neighbor. My grandfather in NW OK lived 20 miles from the nearest tiny town but it was a 60 mile drive.
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Out in the country I once got the direction that where I wanted to go was about "five sees" down the road. I had to ask. 'Wahll, y'go to whar as far as ya kin see is, and then ya go ta as fur as ya ken see --"
 
Urban Hermit said:
Lithium mining is worse for the environment than drilling for oil.
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Here in the USA, the biggest lith mine is the old silver mine here in NV at Silver Peak. Near where those lost RVers were last year. Makes little difference to the environment when mining for silver or lithium in the same mine.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
DonTom said:
Here in the USA, the biggest lith mine is the old silver mine here in NV at Silver Peak. Near where those lost RVers were last year. Makes little difference to the environment when mining for silver or lithium in the same mine.

-Don- Reno, NV
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Accepted. Can that mine and others produce enough lithium for the batteries for all the cars, trucks, RVs, fork lifts, cranes, trains, mining equipment, etc. in the US?
 
Urban Hermit said:
Lithium mining is worse for the environment than drilling for oil. Imagine the countryside if all vehicles ran on lithium batteries. How much do we have vs. how much we'd need and how much we'd have to buy from our enemies? I don't know the answer to that one but "they" need to take it into consideration.
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Diesel or gas is burned once and gone. Batteries are recycled. You don’t burn lithium to get energy.
 
Viajeros said:
Diesel or gas is burned once and gone. Batteries are recycled. You don’t burn lithium to get energy.
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The issue is whether massive lithium mining or fossil fuel emission s would be worse for the envornment. Factor in millions of dead and discarded (wrecked vehicles) lithium batteries.
 
Urban Hermit said:
The issue is whether massive lithium mining or fossil fuel emission s would be worse for the envornment. Factor in millions of dead and discarded (wrecked vehicles) lithium batteries.
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The batteries are worth a ton of money. Chances of them being discarded are very slim.
 
Viajeros said:
The batteries are worth a ton of money. Chances of them being discarded are very slim.
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Could be. What about all the open pit mines required? What did I read about X tons of earth needing to be moved for one car battery? Can't remember. Don't know if was true. But what if it is shipping container vs. bread box?
 
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