Tulecreeper
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Yes, west side, center.Do you live in Arkansas?
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Yes, west side, center.Do you live in Arkansas?
No, you won't find any unrestricted land in CA, except possibly in the middle of the desert out by Barstow. Far west CA is ocean-front property. Nothing at all available there.Far West California?
Coastal regions have very mild summers. I would have said north but the winters up there are as brutal as the summers are here. I prefer states that are not totalitarian in nature so I put up with the heat. We had a discussion about permits once in a woodworking forum years ago. permits for the shop the guy was building in Sacramento would have cost $275 in Dallas [where I lived at the time]. There he had to pay $28k to get the same permit. Very little unrestricted land out that way, but you can find it if you go rural enough in the northern region of Cali.Far West California?
The Off-Grid Laws of Every State in America: What States Allow Off Grid Living?What states are you talking about?
Pretty much anything up north is the same as the desert region around Barstow. If it's not private land, it's owned by either BLM or the Forest Service. Now, you might find someone with 10,000 acres of high desert and buy a couple acres from them, but there would be no infrastructure so you would need to pay to have it brought in or drilled for, or build an off-grid system the size of a house to meet your needs.Coastal regions have very mild summers. I would have said north but the winters up there are as brutal as the summers are here. I prefer states that are not totalitarian in nature so I put up with the heat. We had a discussion about permits once in a woodworking forum years ago. permits for the shop the guy was building in Sacramento would have cost $275 in Dallas [where I lived at the time]. There he had to pay $28k to get the same permit. Very little unrestricted land out that way, but you can find it if you go rural enough in the northern region of Cali.
It's definitely the case that rainfall varies widely - Arizona is a place of open plains and high mountains, rivers and deserts. It's also a monsoon climate. Water may be mostly rare but a flash-flood when it happens. Much different than anything east of the Mississippi.There is a couple that live in Arizona and they have a large cistern and a couple tanks. Their rain catchment system supplies all their needs. However it could be some parts of Arizona has more rainfall than other parts. Also can I build a sufficient rain catchment system? no not on my own
Yeah, BLM land is everywhere out west and northwest. The advantage to that is fewer neighbors, but without an alloidal title you would be subject to possible eminent domain action.Pretty much anything up north is the same as the desert region around Barstow. If it's not private land, it's owned by either BLM or the Forest Service. Now, you might find someone with 10,000 acres of high desert and buy a couple acres from them, but there would be no infrastructure so you would need to pay to have it brought in or drilled for, or build an off-grid system the size of a house to meet your needs.
Besides, the northern high desert in CA is a**-deep in snow 4 months out of the year.
It was the same way in Louisiana until Hurricane Katrina hit in 2005, after which the state Legislature passed laws requiring all sorts of permits and building inspection even in rural areas.Mid western states are mostly unrestricted in rural areas. You can build anything you want, use the land for anything except growing something illegal or dumping something toxic, no building codes, no inspections, no regulations. I had a new house built and no permits or inspections were required. You couldn't get one if you wanted to.
Ocean front property in CA is controlled by the California Coastal Commission which is quite strict about how they allow their lands to be used. Their control stretches from the coastline to the east until the land stops rising in elevation and starts to descend. Sometimes this is 20 miles or more inland.No, you won't find any unrestricted land in CA, except possibly in the middle of the desert out by Barstow. Far west CA is ocean-front property. Nothing at all available there.
What city or town do you live in or near? ThanksYes, west side, center.
I was wondering what was meant by far west if he didn't mean californiaCoastal regions have very mild summers. I would have said north but the winters up there are as brutal as the summers are here. I prefer states that are not totalitarian in nature so I put up with the heat. We had a discussion about permits once in a woodworking forum years ago. permits for the shop the guy was building in Sacramento would have cost $275 in Dallas [where I lived at the time]. There he had to pay $28k to get the same permit. Very little unrestricted land out that way, but you can find it if you go rural enough in the northern region of Cali.
Yep, common sense there, but there are plots of land available for sale that back up to BLM land everywhere in the west and they are not part of the BLM "family".Eminent domain is when you have title to land but a government entity forced a sale. If you are on public land, you do not have title to it. You will be evicted.
Meant Cali and neighboring states.I was wondering what was meant by far west if he didn't mean california
You can PM me for that. I don't give that info in an open forum. The wife and I are going to be selling our 10 acres and house this year, if you were in the mood to buy. We're out in the country, about 20 mintes from the Oklahoma border.What city or town do you live in or near? Thanks
You can PM me for that. I don't give that info in an open forum. The wife and I are going to be selling our 10 acres and house this year, if you were in the mood to buy. We're out in the country, about 20 mintes from the Oklahoma border.
Click on the envelope icon up to the right, next to your name. A short menu will appear with the choice of "Start a New Conversation". Click on that. On the next page that shows up, type "Tulecreeper" in the 'Recipients' box at the top, then put a title of your conversation in the 'Title' box, then type your message into the big box below that. When you're finished, click the "Start Conversation" button at the bottom. I will get it as a private message and reply. From that point on, it's just a conversation between you and me and no one else can see it.I don't see an option to private message
Maybe you could send me one
Otherwise we can do email
Thanks
That icon does not give me the option to start a new conversation.Click on the envelope icon up to the right, next to your name. A short menu will appear with the choice of "Start a New Conversation". Click on that. On the next page that shows up, type "Tulecreeper" in the 'Recipients' box at the top, then put a title of your conversation in the 'Title' box, then type your message into the big box below that. When you're finished, click the "Start Conversation" button at the bottom. I will get it as a private message and reply. From that point on, it's just a conversation between you and me and no one else can see it.
I tried. I get a message that I cannot start a conversation with you for some reason. No idea why.That icon does not give me the option to start a new conversation.
Please send me a message
It could be I am too new here to start conversations