Personal Protection While Camping

[DonTom]

A 20 year study in Alaska tested bear spray at close range on aggressive, lumbering at you, 400 pound bears.

Yeah, I know they make it differently for bears. But also, most of the bears in AK are different and larger than the black bears we have here in CA.

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[Oldgator73]

Relax a little. Even if all crazy people carry guns, that does not mean that all people carrying guns are crazy. And not all crazy people carry guns, so the population of gun-toting crazy people is whittled down quite a bit.

Problem is I see someone packing I don’t know their intentions so I’m not taking any chances.

 

[Mountain high]

Yeah, I know they make it differently for bears. But also, most of the bears in AK are different and larger than the black bears we have here in CA.

-Don- Auburn, CA

Good to know. We have black bears in Colorado. I use pots and pans with banging. Have a 9MM ready with 12 rounds of self defense ammo.

 

[Oldgator73]

This is the United States of America. Here, you don’t have to make your intentions known before buying a gun or exercising any other rights.

Maybe you should have to. If you went into a gun store and said I need a gun to kill X number of people, shouldn’t that put up some kind of red flag?

 

[DonTom]

I steer clear of anybody that has an NRA bumper sticker or hat on. I look at the NRA as a domestic terrorist organization.

That's ridiculous, IMAO.

But I would stay clear from anybody who gets near a gun who doesn't follow the NRA's safety rules.

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[steveblonde]

Personal protection - safe sex

 

[CityGuy]

This is probably the second-most emotionally loaded issue in the country, behind abortion. The stunning increase in mass shootings, even road rage, gang-related, and personal one-on-one shootings has intensified the emotional level. But there are two unalterable facts that must be considered: first, no firearm ever decided to kill people; and second, the people who use a firearm as a tool for slaughter are those whom society has failed -- failed to recognize as seriously disturbed, failed to stop, failed to help. Now a personal opinion I think is a fact: violent video games from preschool on, the deliberate secularization of society, unwed mothers/fatherless homes, and failure to do the work of parenting are the chief causes of gun violence. I think it's a lazy cop-out to blame guns instead of ourselves.

 

[Oldgator73]

Why? What has the NRA done to deserve that category? I'll be interested in whatever you can bring to us to support your opinion, and I'll read with an open mind.

P.S.: I'm not a member and I think Wayne LaPierre is an idiot.

The NRA is against any restrictions on gun purchases. They could care less about the destruction guns have wreaked on our society.

 

[CityGuy]

Personal protection - safe sex

Never play footsie without a sock.

 

[Oldgator73]

That's ridiculous, IMAO.

But I would stay clear from anybody who gets near a gun who doesn't follow the NRA's safety rules.

-Don- Auburn, CA

Everybody is allowed an opinion.

 

[DonTom]

Maybe you should have to. If you went into a gun store and said I need a gun to kill X number of people, shouldn’t that put up some kind of red flag?

You normally wouldn't even be able to buy the gun, even if you pass the BGC and everything. Gun shops are careful about who they sell to, usually well beyond what the laws require.

See here.

"Dealer's Choice: Gun Store Owners Can Deny Anyone They Want".

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[DonTom]

Everybody is allowed an opinion.

Yep, anybody is allowed to be wrong!

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[CityGuy]

The NRA is against any restrictions on gun purchases. They could care less about the destruction guns have wreaked on our society.

Not so. Gator, with respect, I think you're gathering information with your imagination. Here's one contradictory fact: The NRA backed the Federal Firearms Act of 1938. The NRA supported the NFA along with the Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA), which together created a system to federally license gun dealers and established restrictions on particular categories and classes of firearms.

 

[Oldgator73]

Now a personal opinion I think is a fact: violent video games from preschool on, the deliberate secularization of society, unwed mothers/fatherless homes, and failure to do the work of parenting are the chief causes of gun violence. I think it's a lazy cop-out to blame guns instead of ourselves.

Do you really believe the USA is the only country that experiences these events. Yet we lead all industrialized countries in gun violence. Go figure.

 

[Oldgator73]

Not so. Gator, with respect, I think you're gathering information with your imagination. Here's one contradictory fact: The NRA backed the Federal Firearms Act of 1938. The NRA supported the NFA along with the Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA), which together created a system to federally license gun dealers and established restrictions on particular categories and classes of firearms.

Okay, 1938 and 1968. Got anything recent?

 

[CityGuy]

Do you really believe the USA is the only country that experiences these events. Yet we lead all industrialized countries in gun violence. Go figure.

Because our society produces killers, not because of the Second Amendment.

 

[CityGuy]

Okay, 1938 and 1968. Got anything recent?

I don't follow the NRA. My point was to prove you wrong, and I did.

Now I think I'll bow out of this thread. I come here to escape this kind of contention.

 

[DonTom]

The NRA is against any restrictions on gun purchases.

As is our 2nd amendment.

I don't know why people complain about the NRA. Get rid of the NRA and the GOA becomes stronger.

And the GOA will not NRA (Negotiate Rights Away).

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[DonTom]

Yet we lead all industrialized countries in gun violence.

Of course. What other country has more guns than people?

But no law will make them disappear.

-Don- Auburn, CA

 

[Kirk]

Have a 9MM ready with 12 rounds of self defense ammo.

To stop a bear? Good luck with that!