Artificial Intelligence

[Tom]

As a lifelong early adopter, I'm ashamed to say that I was really slow to wake up to AI (artificial intelligence). I'd read/heard numerous articles/reports, but didn't look into it until recently.

I've played around with free Chat GPT3.5 (I was too cheap to upgrade to paid GPT4), and I've been mind boggled by what it's able to do. FWIW ChatGPT was loaded/trained with 3-5 billion "words" (actually, "triggers"). A "discussion" with ChatGPT results in so much information. FWIW ChatGP3.5 doesn't access the internet (no Google searches), but GPT4 does have internet access.

I recently asked grandkids if they used AI to prepare assignments &/or respond to test questions. Interestingly, they all responded "No way; Our school teachers/tutors use filters to alert them to content created by AI".

I've been plowing through the book "The Coming Wave" by AI expert Mustaf Suleyman. Some of his predictions are scary.

 

[Cameodon]

fortunately I understand very little about AI. unfortunately I guess I will have to!!

 

[jackiemac]

As a moderator on a Facebook group of almost half a million members I think AI is being used now to create profiles and posts, including photos. Either that or it's a huge scam ring.

Many of the recent ones are Asian women - extremely well dressed ie model like - with profound or often nonsensical phrases - photographed in an expensive restaurant, on a boat or in a beautiful location.

I presume that they are then privately messaging people and potentially selling sex. I can't imagine asking for money when your photos are all extravagance. Could be another scam I'm not aware of.

Despite reporting these Facebook and its algorithms do nothing. Of course the profile looks perfectly innocent and definitely would to a computer.

Sad that this stuff isn't caught. And now you can actually create a different profile with another name! OK for business use but very prone to misuse.

 

[Tom]

Jackie's reply prompted me to enter this into ChatGPT:

Write a biography by an ex-pat Welshman. The almost immediate response was (I couldn't write a better response):

Born in the lush valleys of Wales, I was raised amidst the rolling hills and the melody of Welsh choirs. Growing up in a land steeped in history and folklore, I developed a deep appreciation for the rugged beauty of my homeland.

Yet, a sense of wanderlust beckoned, and I found myself drawn beyond the borders of Wales. Leaving behind the familiar sights and sounds of my upbringing, I ventured into the wider world. It was a journey fueled by curiosity, a quest to embrace new cultures while carrying the essence of my Welsh heritage within me.

As an expatriate Welshman, I navigated diverse landscapes, immersing myself in various corners of the globe. From the bustling streets of New York City to the serene landscapes of New Zealand, each place offered its own tapestry of experiences and lessons.

Despite the distances that separated me from Wales, my heart remained tethered to its verdant landscapes and rich traditions. I found solace in the company of fellow Welsh expatriates, sharing tales of home and celebrating our cultural heritage, whether it was through singing traditional songs or savoring homemade Welsh cuisine.

Throughout my travels, I carried the resilience and determination ingrained in the Welsh spirit. The echoes of Welsh poets and the enduring legacy of our history served as guiding beacons, shaping my perspective and influencing my interactions with the world.

While the allure of distant shores held its charm, a part of me always longed for the misty valleys and ancient castles of Wales. Visits back home became cherished reunions, where I reconnected with family, old friends, and the familiar embrace of the Welsh landscape.

My journey as an expatriate Welshman has been a tapestry woven with threads of adventure, nostalgia, and a profound sense of belonging. Though I may have traversed far from the land of my birth, Wales remains an indelible part of my identity—a source of strength and inspiration that accompanies me wherever I roam.


ChatGPT can make mistakes. Consider checking important information.

 

[jackiemac]

It's definitely useful for some things.

My concern is copyright - not for me but others.

 

[Tom]

It's definitely useful for some things.

My concern is copyright - not for me but others.

Here's GPT's response to "write a biography of someone born in Edinburgh":

Title: "Journey Through Edinburgh's Hues"
Chapter One: Origins
In the heart of Edinburgh, amidst the cobblestone streets and the whispers of history, was born Ewan MacLeod. His story unfolded against the backdrop of the city’s captivating blend of tradition and innovation.
Ewan’s childhood was a tapestry woven with the threads of Edinburgh's rich culture. Raised in the shadow of the Edinburgh Castle, he spent his early years exploring the city's hidden alleys, enchanted by the tales of kings and knights whispered by the ancient stones.
Chapter Two: The Pursuit of Knowledge
Driven by an insatiable curiosity, Ewan ventured into the world of academia. He pursued his education at the prestigious University of Edinburgh, where he delved into the realms of literature and history. His passion for storytelling blossomed as he uncovered the narratives buried within the city's archives, finding inspiration in the lives of the people who once walked the same streets.
Chapter Three: Adventures Abroad
Fuelled by a desire to broaden his horizons, Ewan embarked on journeys beyond Scotland's borders. His travels took him to distant lands, each experience etching a new chapter in his life story. He sought to understand diverse cultures, immersing himself in the tapestries of humanity woven across the globe.
Chapter Four: Return to Roots
Despite the allure of distant shores, Edinburgh’s call remained ever-present. Ewan found himself drawn back to his hometown, not as the same wide-eyed youth but as a seasoned traveler, enriched by the diversity of experiences. Armed with a global perspective, he sought to contribute to his city's thriving cultural scene.
Chapter Five: Contribution and Legacy
Ewan became an advocate for the arts, working tirelessly to promote local talent and preserve the heritage of Edinburgh. Through his efforts, he championed initiatives that celebrated the city’s vibrant artistic community, ensuring that Edinburgh remained a beacon of creativity for generations to come.
Chapter Six: Epilogue
As the years passed, Ewan's legacy continued to echo through the streets of Edinburgh. His life was a testament to the power of embracing one’s roots while embracing the world at large. He had painted his story upon the canvas of his beloved city, leaving an indelible mark on Edinburgh’s narrative.

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This biography weaves the tale of someone born in Edinburgh, whose life's journey encompasses the city's essence while embracing the wider world beyond its bounds.


ChatGPT can make mistakes. Consider checking important

 

[Jayflight]

As a moderator on a Facebook group of almost half a million members I think AI is being used now to create profiles and posts, including photos. Either that or it's a huge scam ring.

Many of the recent ones are Asian women - extremely well dressed ie model like - with profound or often nonsensical phrases - photographed in an expensive restaurant, on a boat or in a beautiful location.

I presume that they are then privately messaging people and potentially selling sex. I can't imagine asking for money when your photos are all extravagance. Could be another scam I'm not aware of.

Despite reporting these Facebook and its algorithms do nothing. Of course the profile looks perfectly innocent and definitely would to a computer.

Sad that this stuff isn't caught. And now you can actually create a different profile with another name! OK for business use but very prone to misuse.

There are similar events taking place for women members on one of the FB military pages. Out of the blue someone will reply to some comment made on a particular topic, tagging a particular woman in reply. Looking at their photo and profile, a full blown military uniform, mostly officer types with lots of decorations are on full display.

Middle way in their reply they will compliment the lady about their previous writings and follow up saying that they have attempted to send a friend request but it did not work. So please send them a friend request so they could follow her blog postings. Of course, katy bar the door, full speed ahead ,,,got to make sure they stay in touch with this admirer, one of the other dozen or 20 waiting to hear from her.

 

[jackiemac]

There are similar events taking place for women members on one of the FB military pages. Out of the blue someone will reply to some comment made on a particular topic out of the blue, tagging a particular woman in reply. Looking at their photo and profile, a full blown military uniform, mostly officer types with lots of decorations are on full display.

Middle way in their reply they will compliment the lady about their previous writings and follow up saying that they have attempted to send a friend request but it did not work. So please send them a friend request so they could follow her blog postings. Of course, katy bar the door, full speed ahead ,,,got to make sure they stay in touch with this admirer, one of the other dozen or 20 waiting to hear from her.

See lots of the guys in military or surgeons or pilots too.

Lots of these "please send me a friend request" posts too. There was one that I reported for sending over 10 of these. I reported them all and nothing happened. I've reported obvious porn stuff that pops up (excuse the pun ) and very few get removed. A fellow moderator suspects these may be paying accounts. The AI at Facebook for moderating needs worked on!

 

[Ray-IN]

It's definitely useful for some things.

My concern is copyright - not for me but others.

That issue has been in the news all week, copyright infringement. The inventors of AI have been lobbying congress for at least a year to pass legislation creating boundaries for AI. Now they concede it's too late.

 

[John From Detroit]

Students have been cheating on things like term papers for a long long time.. My daughter's first year as a high school teacher she submitted her students papers to a search engine and it matched every one of them. One mother complained that nobody told her daughter she could not just copy a term paper off the internet... The semester before the daughter had aced an ethics class. they spent two weeks on just that subject.
Before that there are "Secret Societies" to which some of our presidents have belonged that are known to have a library of term papers dating back a long long way (long beore the internet) and a student can simply select one of those. guaranteed the proff wont' have seen before because it was last submitted before he was born.. and make tiny changes (like his name as author) and submit it.
So naturally teachers (At least the good ones) are up to speed on AI.
That said the old joke which I'm starting to believe is true as I watch the news and read posts by some folks I used to think had brains.

We need Artificial Intelligence.... We are running out of the natural kind.

 

[Domo]

I just tried it - holy cow!

 

[Onyrlef]

Turing's "imitation game" theory from almost 80 years ago asked if AI were in one room and a person in another were asked a series of questions and the questioner couldn't tell any difference in the responses, what is the difference? Right now computing is binary and linear, "if this, then that" and when and not if, it goes quantum, ie., when computing goes multi dimensional, you won't be able to tell a difference, ever. In 1959 an IBM computer the size of an average household room could process two chess moves in advance in about 8 minutes, it took it two weeks to do 3, it was capable of processing 12k data pts. virtually simultaineously, an iphone 8, 75 million.
Right now even rudimentary AI, in the hands of a Russian bot can stir up 10 morons to stir up 10 more each, who stir up 10 more each, until there's an entire movement comprised of morons being manipulated by disinformation. Cambridge Analytica demonstrated how information can be weaponized in two very famous instances 8 years ago.
The notion that an asset class, which is what AI is, can be contained is laughable nonsense, think money and power and get strapped in.

 

[SpencerPJ]

AI is the future. Personally, I despise the AI interface on most customer service applications, as it needs much work yet. In the meantime, invest wisely, AI has made my 2023 a great year. Link to the top AI funds, fantastic research tool. Artificial Intelligence ETF List

 

[Onyrlef]

As a moderator on a Facebook group of almost half a million members I think AI is being used now to create profiles and posts, including photos. Either that or it's a huge scam ring.

Many of the recent ones are Asian women - extremely well dressed ie model like - with profound or often nonsensical phrases - photographed in an expensive restaurant, on a boat or in a beautiful location.

I presume that they are then privately messaging people and potentially selling sex. I can't imagine asking for money when your photos are all extravagance. Could be another scam I'm not aware of.

Despite reporting these Facebook and its algorithms do nothing. Of course the profile looks perfectly innocent and definitely would to a computer.

Sad that this stuff isn't caught. And now you can actually create a different profile with another name! OK for business use but very prone to misuse.

So are you saying that 20 year old blond isn't real and doesn't really want to be my facebook friend? Basically however, they don't do anything about it, or pretend they're doing something about it, because it's a revenue source.

 

[Sprucegum]

There was a news item last week about an AI app that can remove the clothing from any person in a picture you take. A young lad had lots of fun with it taking pictures of the girls in his class, 15 year olds. He has been persuaded to stop but there is no actual law against his actions.

 

[Onyrlef]

There was a news item last week about an AI app that can remove the clothing from any person in a picture you take. A young lad had lots of fun with it taking pictures of the girls in his class, 15 year olds. He has been persuaded to stop but there is no actual law against his actions.

That's nothing, in the 60's you could order real x-ray glasses off the back page of comic books and see right through girls dresses, knickers and all.

 

[SpencerPJ]

There was a news item last week about an AI app that can remove the clothing from any person in a picture you take. A young lad had lots of fun with it taking pictures of the girls in his class, 15 year olds. He has been persuaded to stop but there is no actual law against his actions.

Recently in the news, some high school kids did this with a teacher, posted fake nudes, hopefully they get more than a slap on the hand (if that, I guess timeout).

 

[Tom]

Students have been cheating on things like term papers for a long long time.. My daughter's first year as a high school teacher she submitted her students papers to a search engine and it matched every one of them. One mother complained that nobody told her daughter she could not just copy a term paper off the internet... The semester before the daughter had aced an ethics class. they spent two weeks on just that subject.
Before that there are "Secret Societies" to which some of our presidents have belonged that are known to have a library of term papers dating back a long long way (long beore the internet) and a student can simply select one of those. guaranteed the proff wont' have seen before because it was last submitted before he was born.. and make tiny changes (like his name as author) and submit it.

Copying all or part of someone else's writing is plagiarism. OTOH A.I. as described in my prior posts is more like creative original composition.

It's one thing the Hollywood writers are scared about, and why it was part of their complaint during their recent strike.

 

[Tulecreeper]

There are similar events taking place for women members on one of the FB military pages. Out of the blue someone will reply to some comment made on a particular topic, tagging a particular woman in reply. Looking at their photo and profile, a full blown military uniform, mostly officer types with lots of decorations are on full display.

Middle way in their reply they will compliment the lady about their previous writings and follow up saying that they have attempted to send a friend request but it did not work. So please send them a friend request so they could follow her blog postings. Of course, katy bar the door, full speed ahead ,,,got to make sure they stay in touch with this admirer, one of the other dozen or 20 waiting to hear from her.

See lots of the guys in military or surgeons or pilots too.

Lots of these "please send me a friend request" posts too. There was one that I reported for sending over 10 of these. I reported them all and nothing happened. I've reported obvious porn stuff that pops up (excuse the pun ) and very few get removed. A fellow moderator suspects these may be paying accounts. The AI at Facebook for moderating needs worked on!

I haven't received one of those in a while, but last year and the year prior it seemed like every week I was getting friend requests from some busty lass saying, "I've read your posts and you seem to be very nice. I have tried to contact you, but the system will not let me. Please friend me so we can continue this conversation." Or whatever. Hasn't happened in a number of months.

 

[PancakeBill]

Plagiarism is no longer frowned upon I hear. Watch the news and wait for actions against the plagiarist. You could head up a university! Maybe even a country. The sky is the limit.